The M3 Bearcast from Male Media Mind
The M3 Bearcast from Male Media Mind
Disgust in Culture and Relationship Stages w/ Greg
Get ready for a rollercoaster ride as we explore the wild world of disgust and its surprising ripple effects in our daily lives. We're joined by special guest Drayden Greg, who's not afraid to get his hands dirty as we dig into this fascinating topic. Have you ever wondered why you recoil at the sight of certain foods, or why some cultures find certain practices repugnant? We're pulling back the curtain on these puzzling reactions and sharing our own embarrassing love for much-maligned foods like fruit cake.
Now, imagine embarking on a journey of love, only to find that your ideal partner might just be the person you find, well, a little gross? We're all familiar with the proverbial 'honeymoon phase' of relationships, where everything our partner does is just adorable. But what happens when that phase wears off, and we realize our partners do have flaws? We share our thoughts on this evolution, touching on how love can sometimes blind us, and how we learn to embrace these little quirks as part of our partner's authenticity. We also explore the concept of relationships as business transactions (yup, you heard that right!) and delve into the intricacies of open, ethical relationships.
And of course, we couldn't resist sharing some of our funniest dating stories, including a memorable adventure at a Brazilian steakhouse. Ever tried introducing someone to a new cuisine? Let's just say, it can be a minefield! Join us as we unpack the art of dating and social awareness, and how it can make or break an evening out. But don't worry, we won't leave you hanging - we're also excited to share updates on our social media happenings, including live shows and a TikTok segment you definitely wouldn't want to miss. So, buckle up and join us on this exciting exploration of life, love, and the surprising intricacies of disgust.
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Hello and welcome to a live recording of the M3 Bearcast. I'm here with the talented Mr Drayden Greg. What's going on, man, oh?
Speaker 2:a lot. I just had a delicious burger. Anyway, I'm off on a tangent. Good afternoon everyone. Good afternoon, good afternoon, sorry.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So we are doing some things, you know, growing the channel, and one of those I want to make sure I bring to you are some deep dives on different topics I'm going to bring up Wednesday. But Greg and I are going to tear down Disgust, the emotion of Disgust. If you ever saw that movie Inside Out, it's the green chick. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:Sadness was my girl.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we're going to be talking Disgust and what it means for us in our psyche and how it can be used for us and against us. You know, like I often think about us being manipulated by, you know, corporations through marketing, like pumpkin, why we feel Disgust and sometimes how we try to justify it. You know, like when we talk about candy corn or something, you know it's like oh, it's so gross because of blah blah, blah, blah, blah. No, you just don't like it, like come on. You can stop right there.
Speaker 2:Right, I just discovered the other day that I am a candy corn evangelist, and it is okay. I would not be triggered by other people's hate. I mean, it's really one of those things that people are very divided about, and I think sometimes Disgust is just triggered by texture or the way something feels, and it may not feel the same for you, you know. I mean, like I don't like Syria with marshmallows. I find that fucking disgusting.
Speaker 1:You don't like the Lucky Charms?
Speaker 2:They are not magically delicious, god, because it's the fucking milk. I'm sorry, it's the freaking milk and the marshmallow. It's disgusting. You know, I was reading, I was listening to the thing that you said on Disgust. Disgust is absolutely cultural. Yeah, it absolutely is you?
Speaker 2:know it's one of those things, but you know, I've been around the world and I and so I think bangers and mash are gross. Sorry, sorry for my people in the UK, but bangers and mash are disgusting. But you know, indian people don't eat cow because they think cows are sacred. I don't know why. I just had a sandwich full of cow Delicious.
Speaker 1:You know, what's so funny is like I, you know, have people in my life who don't eat pork, right, and they try to justify it with being, like you know, vector of disease is actually true is why we cure pork and not other meats, you know, because it does have a higher likelihood of transmitting disease. So what's so lame, and so does you know yeah, but it's much easier to just cook the parasites out of other meats is one of the reasons why there's these superstitions around pork, because they became indoctrinated into religion. It's true?
Speaker 2:No, I do believe that the antibiotics that they feed the animals to not for the sick before it gets to our table. I believe in. You know I don't want to fucking let us and don't you send me no letters to tell you what I want. No goddamn emails for this, because I'm not trying to get like Jim McCarthy, but I think it causes cancer and but I can see the disgust like like I grew up in chitolings and I didn't realize that it were not OK. It's a lot worse than I was an adult. You know I was married.
Speaker 2:The smell didn't make you gag, I mean no, because by the time my mom cooked them they were delicious and they are delicious. But when I got married my wife was like we're not eating that. You know, I don't care who made it. You ain't bringing us up in here.
Speaker 1:Boundaries, boundaries. Everybody that is exactly how you handle that situation.
Speaker 2:You say so it was like, motherfucker, this was a quick road to divorce.
Speaker 1:It wasn't going to be too like Lock it down, wait a minute.
Speaker 3:I have a question for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have a question for you. So in a relationship now we we're all over 40. So in a relationship. I have a live audience here. So I can ask the person I say hello to my sister he's great, hi. Have you ever did something gross For the sake of your life that you thought previously was gross in it for in a relationship, and then you discovered you like something? It could be sexual food.
Speaker 1:I had to think about that. I don't know one right off the top.
Speaker 2:I can answer that question.
Speaker 4:I didn't like it, but I grew up, okay, and you didn't like it.
Speaker 2:I must be gross because I like everything that is nasty, malcolm. I must be gross because I love fruit cake. Sorry, it is like it is the most hated thing in America.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well there's. There's much different grades of fruit cake, so, like higher grades, I can deal with, not the cheap shit.
Speaker 2:So I have. I have a great idea of what I have to do. I have a great idea of what I have to do, so join me Saturday at 12 PM, eastern Standard Time, when I bring to you the time to visit. M3 presents, the talent and Mr, but on this week's show I have a person that's doing that does only fades, and you know he's. He's going to talk about that Saturday, but the thing is so I have. I was going to bring something to the table until my guests confirmed, yeah, we're talking about disgust, and he threw up in his on his lap, in his lap. So now he thinks the relationship is over.
Speaker 2:Oh God, that's too fucked up and I was like, oh, because we were talking about now, talking about disgust, right. And so I was like, oh, that is perfect, because so why did he swallow?
Speaker 2:He did it. He was like I'm really into dude. He's like I'm really into him. He's hot. Because I asked the question, you know, if you were so, you know, not into swallowing and why would? He gave me all the reason because it's girls and you know, and you've never done it before, why, pray tell, would you do it now? And he gave good reasons why. And he was like, oh, it'd be so hot if you just swallow, you know. You know niggas talking maybe to get you to do anything. You know, getting naked to the clothes, I'll put shit in your butt, you know. I mean whatever it is they want, you know it's true.
Speaker 2:You can talk into most things, yeah you're right.
Speaker 2:This man, malcolm, told me, sir, that he threw up on the man. He said he could not control it. He said you know when it started happening, if you will, he was like and that was the end of that. Now, do you imagine a guy that was having orgasm? It was oh yeah, oh no. Oh yeah, oh no. I love it, I love my people. But so what you said me, and I listened to it and I read it because I don't I try not to think about disgust, for him.
Speaker 2:They were talking about things around the world that you know, because again did I say it live already that I think bangers and mash are disgusting. Yes, I've said that before.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, bangers and mash are disgusting. People love that. People love separate pies gross. No, what foods do you find disgusting, malcolm?
Speaker 1:See, that's the thing. I'm not that adventurous, I, like you know, when everyone tells me, oh, this new place is great. I'm like you know what. I'm not that adventurous when it comes to food. So like I haven't tried a lot of different things, I do remember one.
Speaker 2:Wait, let's hope.
Speaker 1:I do remember one that I tried for someone actually sushi. I ended up liking sushi after being introduced to it later, you know and I think I had to change my perspective on what something good tastes like. It took me a while to like figure out how I got over my revulsion to sushi.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had bought sushi to you years ago and you swore it off and you ate it for a date.
Speaker 1:I did, I did Okay. So I mean, like, eventually I start seeing it differently. So usually what I'm looking for in something that I eat is a lot of flavor, a lot of pizazz. Hits you in the face. I love really, really spicy food In your face, in my face. Sushi is different. Sushi is, for me, about freshness, right, yes, something just clean, drinking a really good glass of water when you're thirsty, like mm. It's just good, like that, it's like refreshing. It opens up the palate. Whatever. You might use some horserider sauce or whatever.
Speaker 2:No, that part of sushi I find disgusting.
Speaker 1:I do, I use the oh yeah. I do Fun things yeah it opens up my sinuses I love it, oh really, so you use the circumvent floaties.
Speaker 3:OK, ha, ha ha.
Speaker 1:I love it Wasabi. Usually it's just horserider sauce yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh my god. So that makes it such funny because I love sushi, but wasabi makes it gross for me, it's the opposite for me.
Speaker 1:It makes it amazing for me, because that's what I'm looking for. Is that like fresh flavor and the wasabi opens up your nostrils and just get all the fresh out of it? I don't know. So all the fresh, all the fresh.
Speaker 2:You know I'm adventurous when it comes to food. So I mean I don't know, because I like liver and onions and shit like that. So I mean it's hard for me to say because I even you know, I don't hate shit. I just don't eat them anymore because I know where they come from. Ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 1:You have to really trust the cook. I mean that one is trusted with your life. Ha ha ha Right.
Speaker 2:And I know when Talented Mises Drayton was alive, my mother, you know, I know, you know she put that cap full of bleach in that bathtub water and you know she sterilized that shit. Right she cleaned her membranes up with an inch of her life. It's true, she's.
Speaker 1:I mean, some people are afraid to do that, but it's totally legit. Yes, she got her knees.
Speaker 2:Yes, she got on her knees Markup.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She put a pillow on her knees and she got that motherfucking bathtub.
Speaker 1:Ha, ha, ha, ha she told me to go and work during the bath. Oh God.
Speaker 4:And all.
Speaker 2:She didn't want the house smell like Chitlins. Oh, thank you. Yeah, it wasn't that nice Give thanks. Give thanks to Mr.
Speaker 1:Eggman Ha ha, ha, ha ha.
Speaker 2:Right and she stripped those membranes piece by piece, and she would. It would take her hours upon hours to clean buckets and buckets that red motherfucking bucket of Chitlins.
Speaker 1:How, how. What a sign of love to do that shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I would have to go to the toilet Loving to do that I would have to go to the toilet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know you, you made 80, you cleaned 88 pounds for three pounds of Chitlins, like really. And then, like like everybody at Thanksgiving, only got a scoop. We guess you did not know. The talented Mr Drayton's family is on my mother's side, is originally from South Carolina, so they eat every single part of the pig. What he was, what he was trying to describe in the thing that you said me, was was you know, disgust is kind of interpersonal, it's it's it's cultural, it's because you know now the other part of me, in case you did not know, the talented Mr Drayton is also out for Cuban. So my father was Cuban. So they eat nasty shit too. Like as nasty because it's in sauce, but like if you go in that paella you better ask them what the fuck is that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I mean, but I mean one of the directions I was going to go with the discussion on disgust. We will do this next Wednesday on my live stream. Let me put that up real quick. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to get one to this on my live stream next Wednesday. That would be, I think, the eighth November.
Speaker 1:How disgust is used against the LGBT community, you know, and why I feel like we shouldn't give our enemies any more ammunition, and this is something that I get a lot of pushback on because I want to appease the more liberal wing of our, you know, contingency, right that. You know. People feel that some people feel like things like pride shouldn't be family events, right. Like we shouldn't expect children to be able to go to pride so that people can go, say, topless or in a thong. You know it's not for children. And my point I would make is why not? Why not have families there? Why not, you know, have a certain amount of decorum that allows people to feel confident that their children aren't going to be like subject to someone getting a blowjob on the corner? Well, you know why.
Speaker 2:Richard, you know why, right? Why is that? They're constantly thinking about somebody taking their beds? They are constantly and they are enamored with people putting things in their butts. You know, what I mean. Oh my God, that's so gross. How do you put that stuff in his butt? Everybody don't put stuff in their butt, right? I hate to tell y'all, but not all homosexuals like it up there.
Speaker 1:You know people have come to a new term. If you like labels, I know not, people like labels. You got the top bottom verse and now they got this idea called a side.
Speaker 2:Did you watch when you were on, when you were out sick? Did you watch the show I? Had a whole adverse reaction to the words. God, it was this week. Oh yeah, yeah, because I was like, and we have some people watching, can you? I want, I want the those who are watching and those who are listening to me and and, and my audience of one here. Still, we don't Ty. Would you somebody tell me like I was disgusted by this thing because it's one more label, it's one more box.
Speaker 1:It's one more box. Yeah, it's one more box For people who don't who don't like penetration. That's what sides are. Yeah.
Speaker 2:What, what, what happened to footage?
Speaker 1:You can call that the action that a side would engage in. But they also do like circle jerks. I saw this one. I saw this one circle jerk. It was like 12 dudes sitting, you know, around in a circle and they would like be jerking off you know, to each other, like rubbing each other's nipples and shit like that.
Speaker 2:Now straight men have circle jerks.
Speaker 1:They do. They do. That's like one of the, that's one of the very side. You know gay adjacent things. People get in the hot tub and that way you're not actually looking at each other's dicks but you're jacking off underneath the water, but you but you're turned on by the naked body of the other male. Yeah, it's just not looking at you Homosexual. I guess, so I don't know Ty said no homo. Because they're talking about chicks or whatever, but they're looking at their friends and shit Chicks man.
Speaker 2:But the chicks so do they like chicks with dicks?
Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, probably. They probably like trans women, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean my people over here on my phone, somebody I need because you money. Calm about this whole thing, this whole circle jerk thing, because you got to remember, sexuality is a spectrum Like it is. But black men are, so we are, so our cis gender straight brothers are. So you know they could. They could use the F word.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they, and they quick to say I ain't nobody doing that F word stuff, ED stuff, you know, but you'll have a circle, jerk.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, like they say, it's not gay in a three way. You know, it's not what they say. It's not gay. It's not gay. There are outs for straight men to get affection from other men, without judgment, you know okay, blurred says it's not gay.
Speaker 2:Everybody agrees with you. I don't know. Okay, so I've never had that type of three way like in a chick, because it is super like deep, like I hate talking about this if this is how it's oscillations like like DP, like double penetration, like no balls going to touch.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It depends on how low you are.
Speaker 2:You join in on it. It depends on how you got to get your ass on a pillow.
Speaker 1:I can't even begin to answer that. Who that cup out of your face on the floor? I haven't done that. Varsity level Straight away.
Speaker 4:So wait.
Speaker 1:Malcolm.
Speaker 2:So somebody over here says in my live audience, the person of one says now, if you understand, well, so you don't a froggy situation, it is Ain't nothing touching. This is true. If you're in a frog, okay, all right. Okay, if you're in a bunny hop, baby boy, ben Rees, it's a way to. This is true, okay, all right. So you started this, Malcolm, you should have. I remember I was in my 20s when baby boy came out. Baby.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And I just you could hear the audible oh in the movie theater when baby All his mailness, you know I mean, because that might have been informative for me as well.
Speaker 1:I was like 14 when I came out, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So 14, I was on 19, maybe how do you know? Malcolm.
Speaker 1:I am 43.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we're. So if you were 14, fuck, I was 21. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I was a whole grown person and drink.
Speaker 1:I was not even supposed to be able to see that movie. It was radar. I was just a very large 14 year old.
Speaker 2:I was on a regular basis. I was on a regular basis. Yeah, I was on a regular basis. I was on a regular basis. But you know, it's amazing what people find disgusting. But you know, I know some people find like I have a friend of mine that big feet are discussed, oh yeah, and he broke up with a whole person. Yeah. Right, he jumped out of the ass from over here. Yeah, you know, it said don't come over here with that nasty.
Speaker 1:as opposed to what your nasty stuff. We're going to go to our recording of the M3 bearcasts in just a moment. I'm going to go off air because that will allow us to do, you know, outtakes and stuff without a full audience. But yeah, like I said, we're going to be discussing, discussed, discussed and love blindness. We can talk a little bit about love blindness right now. This came from a conversation I had with a friend a little while ago. He said to me and he has the advantage in this conversation because I've never actually been in a long-term relationship that lasted longer than two years, you know.
Speaker 2:But that's still a long-term relationship if you made it to 18 months.
Speaker 1:But here's let me tell you the conversation, though this will make more sense.
Speaker 1:The conversation was about the honeymoon phase of a relationship and typically research would say that relationships change around year two, and some people call this the honeymoon phase, where the blinders come off a little bit.
Speaker 1:When you perceive something, because part of love is designed to help you overcome someone's flaws. You know, you put a sort of gold sheen on a person. That eventually wears off and you start seeing all their flaws a little bit more in detail. Love allows you not to just, you know, overlook those flaws, but to incorporate them and associate them with the things you love about them, so that you're not overcoming their flaws, you're associating their flaws with their authenticity, you know, and you can appreciate them a little bit more, while still acknowledging that they're flaws, you know, and not being so triggered by someone's flaws. That's kind of the idea that after a couple of years it gets a little more difficult because those blinders kind of come off. My friend and I got into an argument about that because he of course has been in relationships longer than two years. He believed that there was no such period.
Speaker 2:But I think I take his position.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And I think of course I take his position. That's why you have me on these things.
Speaker 1:So I could, so I could say yeah, I don't have a response to that because I've never been in a relationship longer than two years, so I don't know Like I can't.
Speaker 2:I don't have any personal experience with that Well, honestly, think that it gets better.
Speaker 1:You know cause you learn, okay, so we're not saying that it doesn't get better, we're just saying that it changes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does. But you know, you also say after you know what, you know what my audience is. My audience of one is back. And my audience of one has been in a relationship for two decades, so hold on. My audience of one over there who has been in a relationship for a couple of decades.
Speaker 1:Right, right, okay so they Is there a honeymoon phase?
Speaker 2:Is there a honeymoon phase?
Speaker 4:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what happens after you? So, malcolm repeat, do you think they get on your nerves after?
Speaker 1:this, no, what people describe the honeymoon phase as is. The honeymoon phase allows you to overlook someone's flaws for a while, but once the honeymoon phase is over, you incorporate those flaws into a more authentic identity and you don't love them despite their flaws, but because of them. Their flaws remind you of who they are as an authentic person, rather than just something to overlook. That's the sort of transformation that needs to happen in the beginning parts of a relationship to thrive. This is the theory or whatever, that you overcome the overlooking and you start I don't know seeing them as part of who they are and, I guess, consolidating. You know.
Speaker 2:How I see it is that you kind of the thing that you kind of become accepting you don't necessarily incorporate it become accepting of who they are, yeah, and so I mean I'm a half a hundred y'all in case you don't know, but I've learned, I don't go into it anymore thinking, you know, love is great, but I'm a realist as well. So you know, I think I think our relationships is a corporation. I ain't sure if it that in public.
Speaker 1:But I'm like it's just as legit.
Speaker 4:Relationships are not business transactions. I love this guy.
Speaker 1:What do you think the marriage is, but a contract. I don't know, I know, but I, you know, I said that.
Speaker 4:I just can't believe that. If you think that way, you don't love them?
Speaker 2:Oh, no, I love them, you don't love them if you think it's business. But you know, you think, you know, I think, okay, what's the credit score? What's, what's? What are they bringing to the table? Cause I haven't, you know, I'm a business person. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, by the way, you know. I know that.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I love you, man, Because if you, if you are a, you know, a bougie bitch, you need someone who can provide what you want you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Let's see you real. If you're a business major, bougie, okay.
Speaker 1:If, if not be, if you can't, do you know? Name Brian Chicken Beggars. If you got a budget, there's everything at the store. You're not going to be happy. So, like you got to have a partner who can support the lifestyle that makes you happy, Right? What's wrong with that?
Speaker 2:To my, to my hundreds of people that are now watching on the stream. Would you, would you be able to say so? You look for someone that justifies your bougie.
Speaker 1:I think I'm thinking that they have to have something to overcome that, Like it's a it's a natural desire that you have as a person. If you are a high achiever, you need someone who can be there with you and not be dragging you down. Right, that's just a reality.
Speaker 2:I have a question here. Question so the people that have two decades and the relationship open most time?
Speaker 1:What's the?
Speaker 4:question yeah.
Speaker 2:What's the question? Is your relationship after two decades open or closed? We have to be quiet, michael. We have to be quiet. No, we can't. No. My audience says open over here. Michael, do you think what? What's your? We can't answer.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know, I mean what? What differences does it make? I, it's my.
Speaker 2:So you know the town's in Mr Drake and says, yeah, go for it. But, gregory, you know I'm super Catholic so I'm not trying to get Excuse me, it's all about what works for them.
Speaker 1:I mean like if it does work, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2:You know, like so, so, so blurred, blurred, blurred, as black nerd this is, I need you to come join like the show, like one of these days, because your, your opinions are so wonderful. So you have been in the relationship for a decade. I'm going to keep going for a second. I got several questions. I'm sorry this is not my plan. Blurred, you have been in a relationship for at least a decade. Okay, open or close? We got an answer of open at my live audience of one. So tell us open or close? So yes, it's no. So it was a relationship that we want. They want to know down here. Audience of one, quick calling your name oh, was it always open? So open, oh, okay, so it opened up about the 10th. Oh, let me look, people starting to join. We're getting eyeballs.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying and they want to know people.
Speaker 2:This is so nasty.
Speaker 1:I know right, no, no nasty.
Speaker 3:Thanks for asking. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:So is a close relationship. Are we lying to ourselves In close relationship?
Speaker 1:No, I think what is beautiful about it to me is like that you can make that change, that you can have the communication within a relationship to meet the demands, because our demands may change over time, you know, and so, like you got to be able to adjust. My audience of one said they are going to change.
Speaker 4:Yes, Because we age. So therefore, something's going to change. Regardless of what you want to, the only person you're in a relationship with is change, because change is always going to happen.
Speaker 2:Okay, common blur says yeah, but it's different for everyone. The fundamentals of a relationship don't change the fundamentals, but the person changes.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yes, I'm taking it all in, man. What's the?
Speaker 2:difference. What happens again?
Speaker 4:Our body cells recreate themselves every seven years. Of course we're going to change. Wait a minute, we're not even the same person.
Speaker 1:Every seven years, we're a different person. Yes, all of your body is different.
Speaker 2:Very profound. Yeah, you know, in all of my education I'm really a dummy. I never do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think your blood cells are probably the quickest to die. Your bones will, I think, are the slowest, and that's the way Slowest. But every seven years, every cell in your body is different, Right?
Speaker 2:So I don't know how to read this but you know, when people have like pictures for a screen name, so I don't, it looks like a fist or something else, Something. I think it should be closed in the beginning to build your bond in the foundation, but open after a certain period. So do you go into the situation saying at some point I'm going to open it? Rick Davis, Brandon, hey, hey, what's going on?
Speaker 4:You go to it with open eyes. You know what you will change.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my person, my third person, Brandy, you want to join us? You want to join us?
Speaker 1:He might as well be in the show now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you might as well just come on in the room and pull up a chair. I think this is going to be in the show. I mean literally streaming. We have a hundred people and people there are like questions that come with me fast and furious.
Speaker 2:So the time. Oh, Squirrel okay, his screen name is Squirrel, I don't know what to go to. Thank you so much, you're such an idiot, and anytime, I guess. Yeah, so anytime you guys want to join us from the live stream, to go to YouTube and look for Mail Media Mind we are there, Join. Or go to Facebook and look up M3, Mail Media Mind, and you can jump on the show. Well, the unintended show this is we are recording for the bare cast and I think this is going to be the cast, but okay, and I'm sorry, Miles, because we can add.
Speaker 2:We can just do it and I'm sorry about we can't read my comments over here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I apologize for taking over your shit.
Speaker 1:No, it's good. No, this is exactly why I said we would do this, because I'm going to use this as a learning session for myself. I'm trying to learn DaVinci, resolve Okay, and SWAG is going to help me edit this into a video using DaVinci.
Speaker 2:So, rick, Davis says this is also a difference between open relationships and polyamorous relationships, non-ethical. My relationship husband has always been ethical, non-monogamous. That just sounds super complicated.
Speaker 1:I could be Ethical. Non-monogamy is just saying that you're not using deception to get your needs met outside of a relationship. And that is different for different people and for some people they cannot feel secure with someone being out there. And that is where you say I'm going to be ethical about it. And if you do stray, for whatever reason, even if you have a monogamous relationship, you are honest with your partner about the fact that you messed up. Even that is ethical, non-monogamy. So like, let's say, you do have a monogamous commitment. Okay, you make a commitment to your partner that if you accidentally stray, will you tell them or not.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute. So I love that. I love to look on your face when you said that you guys on the street. We couldn't see that, but his face was real.
Speaker 1:You know, like if you, because you would say, oh oops, I fucked some dude. I said you have to be honest with your partner about whether or not they really want to know about any of your mistakes, even though you are having a monogamous relationship with them. We're human, we make mistakes. Do you really want to know about those mistakes or not? I mean, that's a conversation that you know partners, even who are monogamous, have to have. Or do you really want to know? If I feel guilty about it and I will never do it again, do you really want to know about that mistake?
Speaker 2:So, brandon, we have read the ethical slum. Malcolm constantly forces me to read it. We have read it. I love my friend. It's been a while, though it has been a while I love my friend, he forces me to do educated things.
Speaker 1:It makes a framework. It makes a framework for being honest, because people may not want all the truth.
Speaker 2:You know like and that is true. And you know almost all of these 50 years to realize yeah. They don't want it.
Speaker 1:They don't always want people All of it.
Speaker 2:That's like fuck it. Hey, listen, I would rather you lie to me, Then you destroy my idea.
Speaker 1:You know, as long as you're well.
Speaker 2:I did my life.
Speaker 1:Exactly as long as you're committed to this relationship and it's genuinely something that you know you didn't want to do, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's not that.
Speaker 2:It's because, fortunately or unfortunately, all you ever going to get from me is the real me. So you know, we often talk about you, know open clothes, and it's about you know conversations, it is everything. So one day with Dr Natasha, we were talking about. You know she is off topic, she was. She's watched a few shows and she's like oh, my God. I got to come back Shout out to Dr Natasha she was we were discussing with her truth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in versions of truth and you know who tells it, who wants it, who needs it. But some people it is like some people definitely want to be locked to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely, or at least they want to be spared the truth. I'll give you a perfect example dealing with parents, you know, considering that I have to have a fairly open relationship with my mom, for her and I, to you know, manage the way we do, okay, but there are certain things that I know she has a right not to know. So, the details of my sex life, for instance. She didn't want to know all that.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But that doesn't affect her care, so I was shaking.
Speaker 1:Because sometimes I'm like trying to, you know, have a conversation about sex with someone and she doesn't need to know all that and at the same time she is like In the room yeah, concerned, or whatever.
Speaker 1:So she might think I'm hiding stuff from her and I'm like this is something you don't want to know. This is why I'm talking all open about it in front of you. These are just like some of the nuances of truth, For instance. That's all I'm talking about is that there are nuances to how much you want to know if you were to stray or whatever. Someone in a relationship may not want to be deceived, but they also don't want all the details. So that's a gradient thing that you should have a conversation about. If you're having a monogamous commitment with each other, Like if you were to stray, what do you want? That part is a neutral conversation, Like what do you want me to do if this were to happen? Because I am a human being? Everyone who is flawed, Right. So why are you not having that conversation if you are in a long-term monogamous commitment?
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. Everyone agrees with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, rick Davis, you are in a non-monogamous relationship. Tell me, rick Davis, you know how'd you get there? Obviously it works for you because you're in it. What was the conversation? Malcolm and I will continue our conversation while you give us the answer In here on the stream. Fleming Blurb says yeah, he does agree. Most everybody does agree. We don't. I don't know Because I consider myself a traditionalist, so we get into all the non-traditional labels and titles and things of that nature. Right, I start feeling a little bit disgust to go back to the verse, stopping.
Speaker 1:Why do you think that is? It's just something that is not from natural to you.
Speaker 2:It doesn't come naturally. But you know you talk to somebody who is, you know I'm like, okay, well, this is it. I don't want to stray. I look at other big fat booties, I look at thighs and stuff like that. But you know, it's like you know now, or you know, hold on. Our live audience has joined this live stream.
Speaker 2:One moment I'm going to put this comment up what is tradition about gay relationships? I hate you. I can talk to you in face to face. I hate you. Don't tell me that I mean nothing.
Speaker 2:But I have the right to want to seek the type of relationship that I want, absolutely. The relationships are on their face, non-traditional on their face. But I like my relationship to mirror as close as possible. No, just my idea of what a successful relationship is, whether it's true because I've been in all I am yeah, tell all my goddamn pieces on TV. Listen, I consider myself pansexual. I have had all types of relationships with all iterations of sexual beings and I did. Whatever the iteration of the sexual being is, I desire the same energy from that person. I desire the same. Sir, are you looking at me when I tell you this? Say hi to that. You know, malcolm, you want to come home? No, I'm talking to both of y'all, so you know it's not trying to mirror my relationship after a heterosexual relationship at all. It's just modeling. At the what I grew up with, I saw my mother and my father who happened to be monogamous, heterosexual people, but I enjoyed what they had, so I like that.
Speaker 1:It wasn't their relationships based on a certain amount of openness and like a little don't ask, don't tell type on the side deals people were making.
Speaker 2:I mean it was the 70s, you know they spoke weed. I guess they got a little happy.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying most. Most of these sort of traditional marriages that people out are ones that had people who had girlfriends, whole you know families on the side that you know people considered traditional.
Speaker 2:I was trading one that she is turning over and that casket. I feel like when I want to say baby, what do you say? I read Davis, the conversation is the love works. Love is not static. Relationships develop. Things happen as long as we communicate that we want. That is what matters most.
Speaker 1:I think, because I think our the thing is, our desires change over time. I think about like this. I also have this conversation with someone about law and order, svu. Okay, oh, that's my shit. You know, that's my shit. Yeah, it's not mine anymore. I don't know what it is, but recently I started seeing SVU as like just a better version of like the days of our lives, like I look at it, as like it's an upgraded. I can't. I can't do that. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 2:I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1:So I see it like that, like when you're negotiating over what we're going to watch, you know, for an evening my taste might change. You know, like I might grow out of love with SVU, and if we're watching it every Tuesday, I might be like let's talk about Tuesday again. If you are not, you ain't going to win, we're just going to have to all, because if you're watching SVU every Tuesday you got you better be giving me some really good top notch sex after you. Better beat it out of the park Because.
Speaker 2:I am back. This whole thing is taking a left, we you know so. Rick Davis also says a lot of times it's trial. There People can say they can handle it till it actually happens. Now I have a goal with the flow kind of dude, like I don't necessarily trip on on craziness. But is there now? Is there something so tired? You gave me a side eye, so you do you think there's something wrong with me because I have a? Do you feel like Malcolm as well? Do you feel like I have an unrealistic expectation of relationships?
Speaker 2:That's a very good question.
Speaker 4:It's just that most people use terms like traditional and this and that with their own definition, not the one that you find in the dictionary. Okay, so therefore, when you do that, then you leave the other person unarmed and unparalleled, treated to what they want.
Speaker 2:Thank you, judge Houston, I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much Judge Houston. By the way, we're going to we're going to go to Patreon in a second.
Speaker 2:Monogamy. I don't know, I feel a little out of step these days. I think you know some people think monogamy is dead. I'm very much a traditionalist. If you see me out and about social media, my handle is generally romantic. I am, I believe in monogamy, I believe in romance, you know? Okay, oh, I miss all these comments. So here's that. Fuck, it sounds like a good option, okay, you know. And look, I'm not knocking anyone's hustle or game or whatever. You know, do you? You know, do your shit. But I, you know me personally, I don't know, I just, you know I'm a little old school, so so good. Well, thank you for joining us for this little. Let me sign off over here. Welcome back, okay, so you can continue talking. I was waiting for you to get back.
Speaker 3:Okay, representative George Santos survived an effort to expel him from the house. That's number three he was sentenced to. 64 Republicans and 155 Democrats voted to remove the New York Republican yesterday, but that was short of the two thirds majority required for his expulsion. Some of his fellow Republicans had led the effort to get rid of Santos. They were concerned about the false statements he made and his federal criminal case. Looking ahead, santos faces 23 federal charges, including fraud, money laundering and falsifying records. His trial is set for September.
Speaker 2:What they gonna do when he loses.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I mean he's likely going. I didn't know he had that many felony charges. Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 3:That's a lot.
Speaker 1:So that was like one of the passages from this summary. I haven't read the book. It's called a general theory of love, right, and you know I was just talking about that very idea that love is by nature designed to help us oversee or overlook someone's flaws, in a way to accept those flaws, give you time to accept them over time. I mean, that's part of the attraction to someone helps you oversee, you know, overcome those things that challenge you.
Speaker 2:Well, I think first of all you have to understand that two people are. It's like a fucking speeding locomotive that you know you both start off on two different tracks, yeah, and then, by the grace of the good Lord himself, you somewhat end up not on the same page but in the same book, and then you gotta read up and catch up to the other person or slow down and go.
Speaker 2:You know. You know love is one of those first objective things. You know what I mean. It's very subjective in the fact that you know, two people can experience the same emotion very differently. And so it took me 50 years to realize that my idea of love someone else with the idea of love is vastly, holy, solely different. Yeah, you cannot discount someone else's version of their ideal of love.
Speaker 2:Right you know what I mean, because then I'm going to a huge disservice, right, because I'm like, oh, you don't love like I love, or you know, I don't necessarily believe in that love language thing, but it's something to be said for. Yeah, it was a.
Speaker 1:It wasn't scientific, but it does work. You know, and I think you know, it gives you a framework to which you can express your boundaries and things that you need. You know, things that make you feel desired and wanted. Whatever framework helps you communicate your inner experience better is what you use, and I think the love is just as good as any framework to use to like hone in on what it is that makes you happy.
Speaker 1:And I think you know for me, I know acts of service happens to be one of those things. And then when you tone that down, you say, like what sort of acts of services? Kind of like when you know I need something done and I'm struggling with it, If you just go ahead and do it for me, that was, I'm ready to give you whatever, Because I hate struggling, I do. And that becomes a specific conversation rather than some general love language. That's good for helping you discover a certain thing that makes you feel happy.
Speaker 1:But yeah like when someone just takes control and does the thing that they know I need. You know help. Doing that works for me, but that isn't. That doesn't require love languages. To do that really is just being honest with your partner right, and with yourself first.
Speaker 2:You hit on something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. Yeah, being honest with yourself about what you need and trusting your partner to hear whatever it is you want or need. I mean, it's really the core of it.
Speaker 2:You know, because you know there are some things that I had to come to terms with for myself. Well, I could honestly come to terms with, you know, I don't know, you know, talk about, you know, recently injured myself and I was telling our audience of one over here Just today. I was like you know, I think yesterday was the first time I realized I could sit down and do nothing.
Speaker 1:And it's okay.
Speaker 2:Like, really like, like. So when you were on sabbatical, I was on TV three nights a week. Yeah, that means you know we have new hosts. So basically you know my show, their show and your hour. So I'm typically I was planning three shows. We'll talk about that. Now although I have a severe and undying love for this. Yeah, it does. It takes time.
Speaker 1:It does.
Speaker 2:What I did not realize was, in this kind of love is for anything, human beings, or what you do, or whatever I realized that you know that I didn't realize what my love language was for what we do, and it was the expression of a good show. So I was fighting against being tired, yeah, and my wall was as long as I have a good show, it was worth me being tired.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:Right, so I translated that into the person matter. You know me when I say the person. So, I changed it to the person matters and I often told myself you know, it doesn't really matter how I get to the success of love.
Speaker 2:Successful love looks very different for everyone. You know, successful love could be oh, I sustained a relationship for six months. I sustained a relationship for six years or 12 years or longevity, or sometimes people have different expectations. You know, my goal for this relationship is have to have outstanding, mind blowing, bootylicious sex. You know what I mean. Yeah, and when you meet this person, you're like this is what I want from them. Yeah, but their goal is like oh, you know, malcolm is tall, he got a bro, he's luscious, you know, he got. He's thick and juicy and delicious and all these things. You know, he's popping juice, like bacon and so, and they want to keep you and take you home, and but you're like I'm gonna hit that, I'm gonna get that and that's it. And so you're on very different tracks, you're on very different lines of thought, and so your love is very different.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I, you know, honestly, I thought love would be easier as I got older. But as I've gotten older, audience of one, it has become insanely more difficult because I have become more transparent.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And then the people I run into want me to lie and I'm like well, no, I'm not doing that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's interesting yeah.
Speaker 2:And they do that. They want me, and so, first of all, I noticed that they fall in love with the top of the straight and not Gregory.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm a little bit more reserved. I'm a little bit more reserved. I'm a little bit more reserved. I'm a paw paw and a father, so you know, you know. So I drive in a different lane. I mean like I'm a little more, you know, a little more or less reserved. Yeah, I don't want to break that, so I move slow.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. So, but I but I, you know, I'm not gonna say that. But I said all of these things to say that sometimes we fall in love with the rapper and not, you know, the outside thing of the person and not the person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is true.
Speaker 2:So yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean that is a normal thing to fall in love with someone's potential rather than who they are. You know your vision of their possibilities versus the sort of nitty gritty reality of someone, and it could be as simple as you know someone breathing through their mouth. You know like, do you want to hear that mouth breathing for the next 20-something years?
Speaker 2:Do you remember when you went on vacation, that whole? Couple of times when the person they went out we went out to eat they were like oh, yeah. Yeah, all these of one. Were you on the show that day when I would talk about that person Like I was digging and they were just fucking gorgeous and we went out a few times. But then, like around the third date, I decided let's go together, and then so on, like the third or fourth date, my favorite date place is Fogo to Shown.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Why do you say? Why do you think? Because, first of all, okay, so you have to be nice to the waist. Yeah, it's not nice to the waist that they won't bring you meat like they should.
Speaker 3:Really, really simple as I go.
Speaker 2:Do it. You got to be genuinely nice, because they're genuine nice people. So, we went to the new one yeah, you know up there, you know to the new one. So we said this person had never, been. I found that to be crazy. They didn't even know what the concept of a Brazilian steakhouse was.
Speaker 3:Well, no.
Speaker 2:I really got concerned because you know, allegedly you were only you know things. You know I have a friend of mine that calls them the NBA girls. That's what he calls them. You know she has a Gucci Louis bag and she drives a Jag BMW coupe. You know her teeth are pushed up. You know she has a little dog in a bag. You know I mean she get me. You know she get me and I often tell people really I'm going up from the tattoo but I often tell people so they get in the size of your mask and the light skin with a deep voice. So I'm winning. It's raining, pussy. It's raining. I go outside and I need a raincoat on the umbrella because pussy just falling out the sky when I moved here, just bam.
Speaker 2:I got to move because it's going to hit me. I'm going to hit a tree. Pussy is raining on the sky. So you know, I was like, oh, now this is, this is so. This is when we had two different ideas, or not? Right? So I go, I take this bitch to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the. We sat down, in fact you know how much I loved it.
Speaker 2:Remember my 49th birthday was that job. But that's how much I love it.
Speaker 1:So it was awesome it was, wasn't it all?
Speaker 2:that was your first time there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:You are welcome, sir. Thank you, yeah, it was it was delicious and it's not all that expensive. Concern to me that you get.
Speaker 1:That's true it was. It was reasonable your price at like top quality yeah.
Speaker 2:Top quality meat. The service is good.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So you know you're not breaking the bank when you go.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:You're like okay, I can feed this bitch for this price. We're good.
Speaker 1:We're good. Yeah, I was depressed. I was actually depressed.
Speaker 2:So the bitch says, well, I don't think I want all this to be on the school. I said, what A school? I said you mean a skewer. Yeah, you know what I mean Green Come on now.
Speaker 1:Oh my God.
Speaker 2:So you know I hate people that are socially challenged. That is my other pet peeve. Like bitch, you don't know what a skewer is. First of all, you don't know what a Brazilian is.
Speaker 3:They guys are mad.
Speaker 2:I'm a great boy and I love my grandchildren. I can't lie to you. So I'm sitting there, you know. And so this bitch eats all the signs. You know the signs come the plateen and the potatoes and all this. Just eats all the signs Meat. And that damn bitch don't eat all the signs, because the meat is coming, the meat train is on the way. That's funny so but he kept eating. Right, the meat train is coming.
Speaker 1:I was like we need swag for the gig Right.
Speaker 2:My first, because they even have sausage there. My favorite thing around first was the sausage, so she discovered that she also loved the sausage. And so sausage man left this bitch ate her sausage for you and then, she's gonna stand up at the table and she's gonna say, hey sausage man, hey sausage God.
Speaker 1:Oh geez.
Speaker 2:That's not a bitch by her purse, that's a man. Could you please set?
Speaker 1:out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you are embarrassing yourself first of all Because you ain't embarrassing me, because, bitch, I'm coming back without you. Yeah, so you know, I just did not. And so we began to talk. She was like, well, I like you great, so pretty, see, and stuff, and I don't know if I could facilitation this kind of relationships. And she kept using the S's and there and there wrong, and I was just like, okay, no, bitch.
Speaker 1:So why didn't you see that before that moment? Correct.
Speaker 2:A good, you are my soul mate. You correct good, good question, good question. And I did not, because I was dating her representative.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know, I saw the fat ass and the push up titties. And you know, you know, I love these little man titties, I love some man titties. We all harry nipples and stuff and us and the breasts and our group saw on Facebook about man titties. I love it.
Speaker 2:Move it Get you some Foo-bitch gets you something, and we all love man titties, right. So you know and I did not see it because you know I did not, that's not who they represented to be, and I was just like, oh my God, she lied to me because she did not lie to me. She's been so astute and getting away with her representative, you know, yeah, yeah, there was a fourth date. There was a fourth date.
Speaker 2:Okay, there was a fourth date at this place called right. The fourth date was at this place called the painted duck. Now you want to tell you that's my habit, but you get these little bocce balls that you bowl with, and you got human checkers and human chess and the food is good.
Speaker 1:Now, oh wow, that sounds awesome.
Speaker 2:It is awesome we got to go there to train some guys. We can do the M3 thing there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would love to you know plan an event for our patrons. So that's something we need to plan.
Speaker 2:Right. So, and again, thank you guys for always being private supporters of M3.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would really like us to get together sometime this summer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, coming, up.
Speaker 1:I should, and you know we'll use some of the funds from Patreon to make the party happen, I should recover from my BBL by then.
Speaker 2:I should recover, I should recover, you know. Somebody says you know, I've said a thousand off of something real quick, so I have said a thousand times I have phoned it and to my, every once in a while let's around with your great. You see that, yeah, we're coming from this BBL going wrong, you know. But so luckily, on the fourth date I ran into the person I went with just on a date with and that was it. Yeah, we were together some years. So yeah.
Speaker 2:So God doesn't know if we're talking, but we were unequally yoke. Our definition of love and relationship was bad, and then I didn't want to have to educate this bitch too. Let's dump bitch to life.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:I want to do these things and, like bitch, you had the opportunity in life to you always throwing up in somebody's face. I'm an educated gal. I got this Bitch. You know what I'm saying. I was like I was, as you, dummy.
Speaker 1:But yeah, yeah, that is one thing that bothers me too. It's not so much the lack of knowledge as the pretending, as if you do have the knowledge but you don't. Yeah, that's really the down thing, that strikes me as.
Speaker 2:And then you look down on other people for a legend. You think they don't have it. But bitch, they're smarter than you, cause they're smarter than not to open their mouth and let people know they dumb as fuck. Shut up, shut up, stop talking. Pretty much Everybody know you're a dirty little thing, that's your dirty little whore, and you don't know nothing. I keep that to myself. I would like to thank my audience of one over here in my space. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a really good discussion actually, I think.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for everyone that popped in but still watching on some page. Thank you so much, and please don't forget to check out Malcolm and his other broadcasts of the MV Baggins. We have some really interesting ones. The last few that we recorded were just terribly interesting and please join him on Wednesday night. From P&P's Daniel Top he will be back in the chair on Wednesday night, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, we'll dive into a couple of those topics Romantic topics, mental health topics and I will delve into some pop culture when it gets to. I did one time. I brought up the fucking Will and Janet thing on the edges I didn't want to talk about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Will and Jada, will and Jada, I didn't say Janet. He said Janet.
Speaker 1:That was a Freudian slip.
Speaker 3:He's creepy y'all.
Speaker 1:He will be creepy. Yeah, but yeah, no, I brought it up just because I wanted to talk about, basically, toxic relationships, and toxic relationships come about when someone's brokenness and someone else's brokenness fit like puzzle pieces, because a narcissist has to have someone who's borderline to accept that shit. And borderline personality disorder is the inverse of narcissism. And virtue, virtue, virtue virtue, virtue.
Speaker 2:And also tonight, if you are free, please tune into the Diggler Digest hosted by your man, Cream Diggler, and then we're going to start chopping it up into podcast material. And, along with this podcast, you can find it wherever you find your fine podcast in America, and again America. We are recording for the M3 pair cast, hosted by your man right there, michael Trebs. Michael, welcome back in the seat, you have been missing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think this will probably do it. Thanks for being a patron. So if you're watching this on, the Patreon.
Speaker 2:Somebody's watching. Can you do we plug the other side?
Speaker 1:I don't want to plug just cream show, OK, yeah, Well, of course you can join Greg Saturday at noon and again Devon Sunday at 5. And of course, out of those TikTok streets, swag is on Tuesday.
Speaker 2:Yes, have a great day. I am also a permanent co-host on that.
Speaker 1:Oh, the other day, but it's really fun, it's really different. And, of course, we're on all of the social media apps. So I'm just going to end the broadcast here. Thank you so much for listening or watching, whichever you are, and catching the next episode.