The M3 Bearcast from Male Media Mind
The M3 Bearcast from Male Media Mind
Mental Health Insights and Struggles w/ Greg
Ever wondered if being 'too nice' can be an obstacle to success? We found ourselves questioning the same, especially in light of the recent controversy surrounding P Diddy and Cassie. Expect candid discussions about power dynamics in the music industry, and some hard-hitting truths about the often murky waters of consent. But don't fret, we keep things balanced by also talking about Leonardo DiCaprio's latest book-to-film adaptation project, 'Devil in the White City'. And as comic book fans, we couldn't resist sharing some fascinating insights from that realm too.
This episode isn't all about the glitz and glamor of the entertainment industry, though. Delving into a sobering topic, we open up about our personal experiences with mental health and the urgent need to destigmatize these issues. We also touch upon our experiences with depression, and how TV shows like '24' and 'Golden Girls' have been comforting companions during our low moments. Thanksgiving is fast approaching, and we recollect our plans for hosting family during this special time, offering advice on how to navigate holiday conversations.
We round off the episode with explorations of some topical issues - an aging political leader, the underrepresentation of black queer males in mainstream media, and the often-overlooked introverts' struggle with socializing. We promise that you'll find our reflections both enlightening and thought-provoking. So, gear up for a roller-coaster of emotions, thought-provoking discussions, and intriguing insights. We can't wait to share this journey with you!
Hello and welcome to another live recording of the M3 Bearcast. I'm here joined with the talented Mr Drayton. What's going on, Greg?
Speaker 2:Is that me? Oh, hey.
Speaker 1:I like to get into deep dives about the topic that I'm going to bring up on Wednesday. Hash them out with Greg. We might go over some of the things you are working out, but we're going to save that for Patreon because we don't want it to be too messy as well. I don't want people to get burned out, but I also want them to pay for the privilege of our banter.
Speaker 2:Correct, and I want to give a shout out to the world's best assistant. He just came with the rules. Shut up, bitch. He wants to curse at me so bad. But I wonder if you're like the world's worst employer.
Speaker 1:But go ahead, no one of the funny banters. I was going to hit around with you because I know how much you like Leonardo DiCaprio.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that I love you. Yeah, so, like he's, he bought the rights to this book called Devil in the White City. I'm not exactly sure what role he wants to play, but he has been trying to get Martin Scorsese to make the movie for him. He's no, I'm not, because that, you know, killers of the Flower Moon was his last movie. So there is like this sort of buzz about like who's he going to get to write and adapt the book and who's going to direct it, because his first choice is bowed out.
Speaker 2:Well, that is true, that was his last movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so I don't know if you've ever caught it, but Devil in the White City is fucking amazing book. I'm pretty sure he wants to play the detective because he always likes playing the good guy, but yeah.
Speaker 2:I think you make a good bad guy, though, yeah he would too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I actually don't know the details about who he wants to play, but he's been sitting on the rights for this book for almost 20 years, so just saying yeah, it's one of his life's projects. Anyway, it is a good movie. It's about a serial killer who was caught during the World's Fair in Chicago in, I think, the early 20th century. So it's a period piece, it's a true story.
Speaker 2:He loved that. He loved that yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a true detective type story, like very philosophical. It's very good and happens to be true.
Speaker 2:Again, malcolm, those fans of ours who subscribe to Patreon, there's a link posted and if you are not, if you're just surfing birth the internet, you see us out there. Please like, subscribe and join us on Patreon.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, yeah yeah, absolutely yeah, and I think, at this point, I think we're going to go to our Patreon.
Speaker 1:But yeah check us out on all the social media. I'm going to switch us over so the only patrons can listen. Of course, you can join us on Patreon, at patreoncom, slash mail media, mine. There are links on all of our socials as well. Yeah, yeah, I think I got some of the best advice from a guy who does that blog, the fashion blog, and the first thing he says you at first you want to do everything yourself. Then you burn yourself out and then you try to be super delegation and then that's just. Someone creates conflict and there's some middle ground in between, there where you allow people to do what they're going to do, but you also have a clear vision and boundaries about what Well to you.
Speaker 2:The other piece to that is I think I, fortunately, unfortunately, I try, I do all I can to enforce your vision. You know what I mean. That is my whole I'm like no, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that because I've got to do.
Speaker 2:Need that, yeah, and the other thing is my dude you gave me I'm staking the pieces of pie and it's your vision. I always keep that in mind and I'm not saying that I don't want to make buckles up like a dictator. He's not, oh no. But all I want to say welcome to someone just joining us. But it's one of those things that I always think it real good.
Speaker 2:I know this is not what you're talking about, but I just M3 is such a vision. It is such a vision. It is so necessary for black men of queer experience. You're like, I know I found a new terminology. I love it, I know.
Speaker 3:I love Lou Burs.
Speaker 2:I'm an adult now man of queer experience. If you join me not this Saturday, but we do I do have a new panelist I'm trying out this Saturday, so absolutely join me, we can test him. His name is Bandit. He's great. I get lifted him from the streaming world.
Speaker 1:He's super, super funny, yeah, and I think definitely looking forward to the people who have experience, who have ambition, who have a need for a creative outlet. That's really what I'm looking for. And then also, what can I learn from them? It's not so much all always what they can bring to the show, and I do want to make sure they have something to bring, yeah.
Speaker 2:I say that to anybody who's listening. If you see me out in media world, I am looking, I am looking for guests, I'm looking for topics, I am cultivating ones out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I am doing a really good job at it too. I have to admit this is difficult. I've been looking for some people in the comic book nerd realm for Devon oh. I got you. Yeah, I got a couple of people.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, it's almost fucking Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1:Yes, I want to talk about it. Yes.
Speaker 2:I know, and I because I love me too. That's why I segue to it, because I am hosting my family this year for the first time in a long time. Okay, yeah, it's about 10 niggas in the offspring. Yeah, I've been here because I've been recovering from a fall. Yeah, which needs its own broadcast, on its own.
Speaker 3:I have had.
Speaker 2:I have been truly enlightened, bro, since my fall, like because I have had to spend a huge amount of time with myself, yeah, and my 50 year old self is not my 40 year old self, and so on and so forth, but the things that I've learned I really want to talk about this off camera. Yeah, the thing that I realized is that this is one of those. I always. I think about this daily. I always go back to when you, you tell me that I made different, greg, from when I post my mother and after my mother, and I think I have had a tectonic shift post fall via pre fall.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think it's one of those things. So when it came to Thanksgiving, like I haven't really been out of the house and so it just shot out of my mouth hey, you guys want to come down for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3:Oh my God, it just shot out of my mouth.
Speaker 2:That's right. I looked at myself. I was like who the fuck said that? Yeah?
Speaker 1:And it was me bro, the funny thing is what? But when you talk about this I've talked about this with a lot of people and want to get your impressions on it One of the things I noticed about our audience when I do talk to them, which is rare- but I do.
Speaker 2:Let me clean this up, because he does not love you. No, I just have to be introvert.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly, and that is the thing that they find adorable about the show. In fact, I think most of the people who watch the show are themselves introverts and I recognize that they see that energy or they feel that energy coming from myself or other people like, say, devon. He's not really an introvert.
Speaker 2:But so when I talk to, these people.
Speaker 1:Strangely enough, he is strangely, I know, but you might have to know his titties being out is like a defiance of the way that he would normally behave. I think it is a radical act of putting himself out there and I think that act is just a changing of who you are.
Speaker 2:I think it's evolving, because I know Devon of five years ago would have done that. I think he is new, different, he's changed, but that's what I think Like you Like you I have.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying that we have a certain baseline of the way we behave. Let's say, if you're a morning person versus an afternoon person I happen to actually be a morning person you are Fucking sucks. I get up naturally at 7am. Yeah, I'm no problem if I have to.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm like no.
Speaker 1:The difference is come around 1030 and fall asleep if I'm regulating properly. So that's something.
Speaker 2:I can do. I come alive at around 930.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's something that you can change, but your baseline will be the same always. Like I can work evenings I could if I had to, and I have but I will always be a morning person and that's what I get about the idea of introvert versus extrovert, which is that I'm not going to speak for Devon but we might talk about that but for myself. Talking to our audience is a effort for me, and when I do, I'm usually rewarded by talking to someone else who has that same issue. We, as introverts, have to make an effort to change. You can't. It's not something that's going to happen on its own. If you're having trouble connecting with people, it's not that you need to be a different person. You need to optimize who you are when you were talking about your fall and how you are no longer wanting to go out as much. I think one of those adaptations was to invite people in right Like you get your head.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's because I don't want. I don't want to be seen on this.
Speaker 1:Oh man, mr Herbert Walker, I don't, and it's but you had enough where, with all the like, make, bring people in, and I think that's the thing with people who are introverted and like myself, included, when I'm thinking about how do I make more friends? You just have to go out and make a fool of yourself, you have to be awkward, you have to learn, you have to crawl before you walk, and that's not something people want.
Speaker 2:The weirdness of that for you, for me, is you reach thousands of people a month, you, but you are an introvert. But when I tell you, ladies and gentlemen, he honestly, undoubtedly, bears his soul, I don't, I hold back because I'm going to tell you, I'm going to be honest with you Johnson, mr Drake and Gregory shared very little, and Malcolm undoubtedly. We've been friends for two decades or more. So when he undoubtedly says you know, greg, I know you think such and such I'm always, I feel like the emperor has on the clothes. Stop saying that.
Speaker 3:But so I always.
Speaker 2:so explain to me about how being an introvert and being a public figure, because, whether we like it or not, we are both. And we're strictly linked to him three Go ahead.
Speaker 1:It's crazy making. I have to be honest. Cognitive dissonance is real. I thought about that with my mom and talking about her personality that she changes into when she's a teacher. So I'm going to tell you, it was yeah it was a start. She did attend Manhattan School of Music and she had some of the world's best piano teachers. They were not nice people the people that she learned from.
Speaker 2:So she literally learned.
Speaker 1:She told me like one of her best teachers was a survivor of the Holocaust, so had the tattoos from the camps. So you can imagine like what her childhood would have been like in three war Absolutely horrific. It is horrific. And that sort of horror finds its way into their teaching, into their view of the world, and it made its way into my mom's way of teaching. Now, mind you, that is actually a good thing when what you want to be is the best you know like you don't settle for anything less. You know A minus. What the fuck? How?
Speaker 2:dare you? I have a question. Yeah, the records. What that? Can nice people not be successful?
Speaker 1:I think it takes some help for a nice person to be successful. Yeah, I think there's a truism that you can't verify, but it just sounds true that no one became a billionaire. Honestly, right, there's a certain amount of, there's a certain amount of deception, there's a certain amount of gamesmanship, a certain amount of callousness is required to Accumulate that much wealth, so much wealth that it could literally Impact the lives of millions of people. To say that this is part of so I would say, for a certain degree, niceness, and it's not enough.
Speaker 1:And it doesn't mean that it has to be within you.
Speaker 2:No, I'm gonna be honest. I hear you and I hate to say this, but my business, I commit my business self. He's not a nice person. Yeah, and that's right, because what I do, I have to protect people's assets and my own.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, you know I mean. So, now that I'm thinking about it, I think I take the same approach to M3. Hmm, I think you know you, cuz you gave me the marching orders and whether you're here or not, I stick to the stick. The game plan is if the camera and the light is on, I need to see M3. That is just Like we see that. I don't know why we see that differently and, honestly, I watch some shows and I don't see enough of your branding on there. Yeah, no matter what my role is here, I forever see it as your brand. Yeah, I will forever see it as your brand. Yeah, one of us can can leave this world and it will forever be your branding. You know I'm saying yeah.
Speaker 2:Go on hiatus for 10 months and you will get back when I was still running your promo each and every Wednesday. But, so I think long story short is I really think that's a part Going to business, going to NBA. I really think you have to be open to changing the vision.
Speaker 3:But you have same time.
Speaker 2:Stick to the plan, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah it does, and so I think that's one of my callouts and probably one of the things I need to do is to Reach out to our audience, getting more involved. I will just Like, when I get you the patreon links and stuff, when make sure to actually talk to all the patrons and they send me all the nasty stuff.
Speaker 2:They always email me like Questions or. Malcolm is definitely a nice guy.
Speaker 1:I am definitely seen as but that's the thing about Classifying us as either nice or bad. It is situational too right. So that's the point of why being a hard-ass as a business person, it's not an issue because you're in the realm. The situation in the milieu of business.
Speaker 2:But, when you take that even in the entertainment realm. I'm sorry. Yeah like remember steak and potatoes. Do you remember I?
Speaker 1:actually had. We're gonna have to talk about Puffy and Cassie.
Speaker 2:Right, you know about this cream, talking about it last night.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I didn't get this chance to see it yet, but I'm pretty sure they did. It's all over the internet, basically.
Speaker 2:Problem with this issue waited 16 years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's not the only one. So there's. There was a law that was passed in New York that thousands of cases are coming up, and I think it's the statute of limitations is basically the reason why it is a thing that happens. Though this is, I usually don't like arguing the facts of the case because they're all filtered through people who have agendas, and obviously she has an agenda to make money. He has an agenda to keep his money from not being like. These are agendas, but we can talk about, however, is the fact that there was this state of play within most industries not even just music, but most industries that if you had power, you had the right to exert that power to get other things that you wanted. So, like the accusations that they're making about P Diddy Is not anything unusual. Cassie is one of the people on the label. They said they they controlled the house that I lived in.
Speaker 1:They control who I could see, people I could talk to, the cars that I drove, everything that I earned was controlled by the company and by Diddy himself, and so like Unusual and it is not unusual. I just think that people have to wake the fuck up and say that this is how business is done, because I think a lot of people are surprised like, oh my god, oh, there's someone with a lot of power and money might actually want to use that power and money To get shit they want. Why else do you have to accumulate money other than to use it? Why else do you accumulate power, social status, unless you want to spend it on something, and this we did on a lot of them and it was really weird.
Speaker 2:Malcolm when she was out here having a platinum hit. You know shaking her ass, she won't think and I love those hits, by the way.
Speaker 1:That's just it. I love some Cassie, yeah, so I was did it too. It's all good.
Speaker 2:But, but my thing is dude. If it was about money, when he would have paid her, go away.
Speaker 1:He did. He offered 30 million dollars, he turned it down.
Speaker 2:She gonna lose. She might not tell you she is going to lose baby, because the thing is I Would have taken it cuz.
Speaker 1:Everyone's saying that she should have taken it, but it's not about the money, apparently for her.
Speaker 2:You know, I want to lose because the whole thing is like she was on red carpets. They're gonna be like you were a willing participant and here's the tape.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and but here's the thing about willing participants. This is true. I think consent is Absolutely important in a lot of scenarios. I think it came down to, for instance, the motivations. I remember we were talking about iPhone City and at one point iPhone City was a pejorative. It was an absolute disgrace to say that you built this town in Shanghai, china, where people just live there and make phones. They don't do anything else.
Speaker 2:Those people, by the way. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1:I do, and the funny thing is, of course, if you, if you, were to go about Apple's propaganda. They do have a higher standard of living as compared to the people around them. This, however, is the issue about China and about many places in the world. We any of us could do that, could exploit Large numbers of people with just the meager income that we make. Like paying them $2 a year Would sound crazy.
Speaker 2:Wait, I choked. Oh yeah, no, is that the salary?
Speaker 1:For some of the employees, yes, $2 for the entire year, but you have to remember the levels of extreme poverty. And the funny thing is China is considering a urban, rural gentrification Program and Apple is considering moving to Vietnam, because that's what they'll need to do, because they won't be able to pay such low salaries. So what do you do? You go somewhere else.
Speaker 2:It's absolutely reprehensible. $50 a year that is ridiculous. It's ridiculous, but that is above the average.
Speaker 1:That's what's so crazy, though. That is above the median income of people in that.
Speaker 2:You like to send me that writing? No, living in. The crazy thing is, ladies and gentlemen, if normally, if he told me, greg, trust me, if you jump off this bridge you won't die, I probably would do it.
Speaker 1:You probably know something's at the bottom Some current is going to take me away you can pay underage children who are doing like non-technical work, say janitorial work would say do pennies. We do the same thing for prisoners. By the way, it should be noted, we're not much better.
Speaker 2:But we paid them more than that at Lowe for Facts.
Speaker 1:I don't know about that.
Speaker 2:No, they make $3 a month.
Speaker 1:Okay, whatever it is, it's still not anything that you can live off of. Think about it like this If you're in prison, for instance, you need some really basic shit like toothpaste and body wash and mouthwash and shit to just make you feel like a human being, all of which is provided by the institution, and they barely give you enough money for that, and they know they're going to do that. They don't have to, and that's the reason why they online tricking and hoeing that.
Speaker 2:How do they get on Facebook and Instagram Security?
Speaker 1:guards. You get there, you pay someone to pay them to give you a cell phone. They don't make enough money either.
Speaker 2:So they do and they're like. They're like, they'll hit you up. They'll be like yeah, show like some noodles. I'm thinking they can. They can go buy them.
Speaker 1:When you see those cell phones, you got to remember it's possible that the guards are watching the room for them while they make the videos. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Of course I don't know why, like at 50s stuff still sees?
Speaker 1:Yeah, bunnies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is why people smoke weed. I'm telling you I drink. Yeah, the reality fucking sucks. But back to because I guess the title that we're talking about being an introvert on this show today it's yeah. But the other motivator is when I feel like I've been in too long. I'm itching to get out. Yeah, last Sunday I was supposed to. I was all downstairs like a little kid waiting for his father, who's divorced, when my friend canceled. But then we're gonna do it again. This, I don't know. I'm really am torn with. I get this middle on time alone. Good, but I guess it's not really alone, because now what? I'm up to four times a week doing this. Now we record, yes, and then I do Saturdays. I'm on swags Tuesdays and I'm on your Wednesday.
Speaker 1:So that's basic Four times a week, yeah, and or five. If you count this, yeah, it's four, but it's still a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it and it doesn't seem to work off even now when I get off of here and then I meet with swag. Together. We have to produce my show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so let's talk about a little bit about that. What do you have coming up for your show? Because he might be able to just talk about a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you. Gay, slang is the main topic.
Speaker 1:Okay, I like that and the origins Is there any slang that disturbs you or that stands out for you?
Speaker 2:It's a common word but when certain people say it I get offended by it. I hate when straight women call gay men girl or child or honey, or I don't like it. My other gay friends I don't think you've ever in our 20 plus years friendship called me girl, Super tall, big, hairy, gigantic dude. You're just a dude. And we talked to each other like friends and we talk about the same gender loving things, but we never miss gender.
Speaker 1:I think sometimes on the fringes, we might. So if we're talking about something really gay, we might say the only thing I've heard you say was child.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:That's not necessarily gay, that's like old black woman thing.
Speaker 2:It's old black woman.
Speaker 1:I know it, I know one thing my grandmother said and I said you're lucky that God protects babies and idiots.
Speaker 2:My mom was my mom and shit God. Look at the fools and babies I have fools and babies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a fool. God looks after fools and babies. Oh yeah, I was like. I guess I'm a baby. I'll take baby.
Speaker 2:My mom was a whole black word from the South to don't feel bad, good, good Z, fuck the hell is going on. This is one of those things like black gay lingo, and I'm introducing a new panelist, and so my goal is I hope he is so entertaining we can fill a Friday night slot with him. Yeah. That is my overarching, so I full disclosure. I tell myself like dude, if you entertain, I will go online looking for this cat he's where I'm looking right now, he streams on a on a dating app.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very popular for people to stream because they give away money, did you realize?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got about $10 or so. Yeah, you can probably check cash out. Yeah, I have no idea, I have no idea, I will just Google it.
Speaker 2:I like my knee, it is nice.
Speaker 3:I am streaming.
Speaker 2:So listen, let me talk to the people I'm streaming to. So, if you can, how do you collect the money from the situation? Y'all tell me about it, what's happening. Hopefully they'll get back to me. So we're talking about tomorrow 12 pm Eastern time, m3 with the man in the town of the street and we're interested in the new panel person. Oh my God, of course we're doing the black news. I love the black news.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's good, and so with that I was thinking I was talking to you. Yesterday I realized that nobody wakes up at 12 pm on Saturday. Yeah, I had to realize that they didn't want to watch the Indian. I love news, so I feel you turn to my 90 minutes. I'm blessed to host and I feel you like what I like. No, no, that is not the case. No, it's not. And it's okay.
Speaker 2:So I've learned and it's going over gang buses and I love it. I am presenting the news and sometimes it's hard and a little more comical fashion.
Speaker 2:I've introduced more sound effects and more people, and I scour the internet, so if you think you are talented and you have something to say, hit me up, let's talk about it and I can bring you on as a guest and I do rotate. We have a set number of panelists that we love. They are family members. Most of them have other shows on our network, but I do think I think I bought in the last panel because there was yeah, there was Jeremy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:There's sometimes Lester. Who else did we train?
Speaker 1:You got Trey. I don't know if his name is Trey, oh, okay, yeah, you were betray. Okay, the guy he was paralyzed. Yes, not.
Speaker 2:Trey, that's not a thing.
Speaker 1:Oh my.
Speaker 2:God, that's my boy. I'm gonna he's gonna shoot me in the face.
Speaker 1:That's why I don't.
Speaker 2:but one person is watching this, hey one person don't tell, Actually it's the same name, yeah that was him, and then we had guests like Dr Natasha, which she's back. Then we've had yeah, oh, and on this show this week we're going to have our monthly astrology readings from Brandon. It's good to get your. What moon am I in?
Speaker 1:our Scorpio's evil.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, you should see the number for that. There's like all through. No, I don't know. It's because Brandon's cute with a great afro. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think there's a explanatory model for the human behavior, and the truth is, if you were using your good sense and observations, even with something that is what I would consider nonsense, you're not going to be too led astray. I think it ultimately comes down to believing in yourself and your own observations about things, and then these tools that other people have used in the past can give you some guidance. I think what's interesting is people who are deconstructing mental health jargon, because a lot of times there are these mental health diagnoses which are no more than a no more than a accumulation of symptoms. If you were to say you had generalized anxiety disorder, you would think, oh, there's some mechanism that creates anxiety in someone and that you could do this treatment. You're like no, it's just saying you have anxiety.
Speaker 1:It's not really saying anything oh no, heffa, no, but there are plenty of other diagnoses that are more foundational, that are substantial, and so I'm not saying that all diagnoses are bullshit. When I started thinking about my own diagnosis like bipolar type two, honestly it's just describing behaviors, it's not necessarily what's the non type two?
Speaker 2:What is the other?
Speaker 1:So the original diagnosis for people who fluctuate greatly between the two type two is when you stay at one or the other for extended periods of time. So I have depressive episodes that lasted years and manic episodes that lasted months, Like one episode last years. Yeah, Versus type one. People would come up and down for weeks at a time.
Speaker 2:I think I would prefer just to stay. I know it sounds crazy. So I find you lucky in that I was in a personal story between this, but I'm not.
Speaker 2:I would probably and I don't. This is one of the owners I don't have. I have many, by the way, but this is why I don't have. But I, knowing people, including yourself, I think I would rather stay and work it out than and I also would like to give my one of my favorite cousins just committed suicide on Monday. He was a really outwardly happy person. I say outwardly because he presented his happy. You know, we just go with that, but the other thing is to check on people, yo, if you. And sadly we had just talked a few days before we laughed and he made videos about the egos and all the stuff and with his granddaughter and it was just shocking yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that's his mouth.
Speaker 1:I think that is something when I think about the admission for M3 is to not only let people feel more comfortable in their skin about who they are that would include whatever sexual ideas you have, sexual preferences, your mental health states, whatever but also I see a lot of discomfort dealing with other people's mental health issues and I wanted to say that diagnosis, you know, it's not an end point of understanding right, it is the beginning, it's a way to connect you to other people. I thought about, honestly, when it comes to bipolar type two, one of the books that got me understanding it in a way that I thought I would not was I think it was the latest book Mariah Carey came out with.
Speaker 1:You said, you said I was surprised at how lucid and clear the writing was about, and this is the thing that gets me in probably a lot of people's. You don't know At the time that you're going through, your personal perception is like I'm who I am, I was who I was a few minutes ago. But if you were to rewind that tape back, you're like oh no, you something.
Speaker 2:I'm in about your little so sub demine. Yeah, sure, it was amazing, because you knew where you were and so you were having some really good time. You were in. The word that would get you back to me was when I said Okay, and it was so joy because I I, ladies and gentlemen, I was on the phone to say whore, my brother walks into my room. He's just the fucking talking.
Speaker 1:We were talking about like when I was in a serious bout of depression. It wasn't actually too long after we first met, and I think maybe 2008, 2009. The show 24 was like a huge hit back then and I remember getting the first season on DVD. I'll always loved oh, didn't say, didn't say his word, or whatever, saying this is Bert, he's burnt. Yeah, that's all I can watch him for all state. It's the voice, but it's also the deepness of it. He's just masculine for no reason. Anyway, yeah, like whenever you got like tough, we wanted his kids, I was like for clips it would. Even his wife would have arguments up. You like oh, oh, hate that bitch, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 1:But no, we were talking about the fact that I would watch 24 on a loop, almost like I would Day after day watch it. And he was like doesn't that cause a serious amount of anxiety? Like I can't think about the dangers of the world all the time and whatever. And I was like at that moment, that serious depression that was helpful for me, it was. It was a way to actually activate my body where it didn't really want to just sink into the sofa, which is what I was doing. I was sinking into the sofa watching 24, I was also activating my body and mind in ways that would be unhealthy for someone who was not depressed.
Speaker 2:Be clear we do it. No, I'm depressive states, I'll watch yeah girls way too much, absolutely I love it. Yeah, I go to sleep with it because I think about it and I'll wake up and I'll laugh.
Speaker 1:Now, this is what I want to see and I have not seen it, but I saw a flyer for it when I was online is a all drag rendition.
Speaker 2:Hilarious. I've seen several clips.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, cuz I'm sure those scripts are still around. Just do the.
Speaker 2:Do that don't change it no way to say, now they're talking about plans has a Pushing the golden girls forward out of the way, I would love it, just make it campy as fuck. The other thing is how progressive they really were like yeah. Yeah, my one of my favorite things. Blanche discovers one of roses. One of Dorothy's friends is a lesbian, yeah, and she has a crush on Rose, and so she comes in the room. She's, she's Sophia, for whatever reason, sophia and.
Speaker 2:Dorothy are being all because they had company. Yeah, I've been so. Fear rolls always. Sophia and Dorothy always have to share, wrong. Yeah, oh, blanche first in the room and says what are y'all laughing at? And they were really Neglect. They really did not want to tell her, malcolm. Let's say Diana, that we laugh because that Diana is a lesbian. And Blanche says what's wrong with that? Isn't Danny Thomas one? So Dorothy says lesbian, not leather. Oh, why is that funny? She says she's no first, she's just. Isn't that one one, one woman. We know what it is. So and she says what was so funny about that? And she says and she has the hearts for rose, thinking Blanche Character jumps into her vein is rose. She has the heart rose, but what about me? And she goes on and on. So Dorothy says get a hold of yourself, blanche. What she says, oh.
Speaker 2:Okay, I love that because Not only was it very open excepting, but it went to the extremes of how dare she not want me? And that show was very progressive and that way. Wait, we picked up another person on patreon.
Speaker 1:Oh, you did, yeah, I did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm gonna give my heart. I wanted to give a hard. My holiday advice stay away from religion, politics and sexuality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unfortunately there's no Convincing anyone of anything. No, they have to want that.
Speaker 2:You were out, malcolm, but you were. I had gotten about three messages. Can trust me to explain things? I don't know why, but I was asked Then was like yo, can you break down Israel and Hamas and all such? But somebody was watching and they was like, oh, how did you? And maybe you should be a little more verse, I want you. I said maybe you should change the goddamn channel. Yeah, not what you want to see. This is not the our feet. I'm explaining some of the people who asked me if you have a, I'm not giving in the pain and I never give an opinion. You may, yeah, having inference of what my opinion is, but when people are getting killed on either side, I have no opinion. Just stop it, you go. All of us are gonna be dead and gone. That little stripper land is still gonna be here. So I have no opinion one way or the other. But in the person was like in a day inbox. I was like, well, I'll stop watching. I was like, fine, fucking, go ahead then they did.
Speaker 1:One of the things I might want to do and put this out there is when I renew one of my prescriptions, subscriptions to one of these magazines. Like I do subscribe to the New York Times and to the Wall Street Journal. I think I also subscribe to um NPR. Like they have a subscription program where you can Bypass commercials or whatever. I'm thinking about maybe seeing if I can get like a gift subscription Because I don't know if I want to do the news but to one of our patrons, if they're interested putting in for a Subscription to the news channel. I like the Washington Post. Right now they have a very good podcast which they just call.
Speaker 1:The seven in the morning is a top seven stories, but sick top six stories. The seven stories feel good but it covers everything from, like local or I would say, us news Top stories like that. It's six, that's five, yeah yeah. I don't think it really does just touch on a lot of the major issues. And then they have a deep To who's that apple? Oh yeah, yeah, I did not know that. But then they also have vox. This is a much more left-leaning organization that does a lot of good deep.
Speaker 2:The only problem with vox is. So we have to be careful. We talk shit about vox, but we have to be careful with the msnbc, or Not? A vox with a v? No, I'm just saying we have to be careful with the msnbc or vox, because they have a certain set of views as well, and I don't know to tell you if you want a more even view, but I do like to know what's happening on both sides, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the other side, don't both sides. The best I can do is the the bulwark. I can't go much further than that or even say like you were saying on msnbc, or Republican lead or someone who's I don't know, a former republican host. I'm not much into television news anymore, just I don't know why. It is well packaged as well. I love that. Nicole Wallace, yeah, see.
Speaker 2:I will.
Speaker 1:I'm down to listen to her latest audiobook, or if she has a podcast, I actually does. Her show is made into a podcast, but right.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that's sometimes listen to her. Rachel my now has a great new book out, um, and I look in the thing about Rachel's. I love how she presents through a lens of history.
Speaker 1:I gotta be honest, I never enjoyed any of her books. No, there's just a way too technical. It's not for me. Like she's very detail oriented in a way that, even for me, is a little much like I. I loved her work on prison reform, right. So she had this really good book On it and I think that was what she was working on when she got the job at msnbc. So it was a very detailed Breakdown of certain things. I think she wants to put too much in it a lot of times. It's just it's enough, girl, it's enough. You won the science fair, you have all the ribbons, you're smarter than all of us. I get it Shame, but I know I love Rachel's stuff. But I do want to do, before we go and we'll think about it the case against George Santos. Apparently it looks like he is going to be kicked out.
Speaker 1:He already said he's not going to run again, but he may be getting kicked out of congress right now. Yeah, I think they stopped that. I think, he's going to. But he already said he won't run for reelection. But there was a report by the ethics committee apparently that would bolster him being ousted. They literally said he was the worst congressman in the history of the United States, like no other congressman has been Found to do this many things. Who in you, in sir, you in?
Speaker 2:He took the guy's fan money and bought only fan pages with him.
Speaker 1:I know he bought all kinds of just stuff for himself. And this is the way someone put it. It's there, or Feaving, conniving, evil people. And then there are people like George Santos who just look at the candy drawer or whatever and just take it, just not thinking about it. You're not some devious mastermind, you're just like it's there. That's why I took it. I don't care about anyone or anything, you're like that's why I did this whole thing to begin with, and You'll start doing it from prison the rest of his life. Yeah, so anyway. The other thing is the election is less than a year away now. There's just barely. Our Fearless leader is going to be turning 81 Next weekend. We put that on the things that are happening, does it? It still doesn't bother you, or how does it? How do you feel about our Standard bearer being? We are an aging population.
Speaker 2:We are an aging population and he is remarkable for his age is yes, and. And he is older than the alternative, he is in better shape than than the alternative, he is more mentally acute than the alternative, he is More well versed in the alternative. I can go on all day. Yeah, no, but that's. I get that when you have money in your white, you can live different.
Speaker 1:It's true 81 and black is different. Yeah, here's the funny thing, and maybe I'll have to find this clip one day. There is a audio clip to be made of Joe Biden saying some of the most dumb things you've ever heard come out of someone's mouth. This is because he's 81 and he's been in front of a microphone since he was 30.
Speaker 2:Exactly, but there are even more things that are more recent. That dear leader wants to.
Speaker 1:The former dear leader wants to say but all those things was he immediately apologized, made up for, like his gaffe with Obama, or whatever, made them genuinely friends. I forget one of the things he said.
Speaker 2:A big deal is what he said. Yeah, fucking Obama.
Speaker 1:Obama lent him $2 million, like out of his personal funds, because something that was going on in his life at the time. He was a friend. You don't give a friend $2 million. He lent Joe Biden $2 million. He lent Joe Biden $2 million. A black man with a white man.
Speaker 2:His financial disclosure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like off of one of his books or whatever. He was dealing with the death of his son. All that kind of shit.
Speaker 2:Dude lent him $2 million and what to do what with I don't know. But if son is, in legal troubles.
Speaker 1:Oh no, if I can't Like his son other son died he's running for president or wasn't running for president, I don't know. This was in that gap.
Speaker 2:If I can't, bro, you have it. That's a bro. You know I need two men.
Speaker 1:You're not going to ask me why. I'm sure you asked why. There was a moment, though, in the past, when there are comments that Joe Biden made about him being articulate that a lot of people thought was racist. It was, but he's a man of a certain age. He's a man of a certain age and he went to Obama personally and apologized and literally became his running mate and like one of his best friends. That is the difference.
Speaker 2:We all make mistakes. Here's the thing about the American electric as a whole. Like dude in morning, joe, if America, I can't stand Joe Scarborough. I think he is just the worst dirt bag on earth. Yeah, I said that to say it's just an asshole. But right. He said he didn't make a point. He says this time, in 2011, they had Obama losing by 30 points.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know, until the he did have a health Mary, which was the autonomy slammed in Joe Biden's health.
Speaker 2:Mary keeps opening his mouth and it's called like today.
Speaker 1:Yes, true.
Speaker 2:Real quick, like today. They judge in New York put a state on his gag order. What does he do? What the fuck does he do? You go right online and start talking shit. And then what does the judge say? See, I fucking told you, You're my fucking clerk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2:He goes right to social media and doesn't think. And the judge then says you know what? I'll get another judge because this is just about, and we know he's going to have to pay 250 million, yeah, upon appeal. He's not getting away from it. And now we know that he's. Now his business is already under some type of weird conservators Ain't nobody talking about that? And then we know, for a goddamn fact that he's going to have to pay this 250 million.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's going to be. Yeah, the thing they're going to do is just literally take his property and sell it and then give him the rest. It's not going to be a choice. It's not going to be like oh, here's a bill due. No, they're just going to take your property and sell it.
Speaker 2:He does not have to catch people. I know and I keep going, you can take all your shit.
Speaker 2:That's what I want to pick at me. If you will Use logic, joe was the oldest motherfucker running for president when he ran and won. Right, I seven million, eight million votes. Okay, donald Trump comes in and he didn't. He's not making it better. He's not saying oh, I didn't mean. He didn't say I'm sorry for trying to overturn democracy. He didn't say oh, that won't be up on them steps, I don't know what got into me. He didn't say I'm sorry, this motherfucker is making plans to turn us into China. He wants to openly say so. Who do you think is going to? He's going to go on, or some votes yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:My prediction right here, right now, on this podcast M3 bad cats with demand.
Speaker 1:Three days from Joe Biden's 81st birthday.
Speaker 2:Three days on my prediction he is going to lose like a mother effort. Yeah yeah, and he's just not. You cannot run for president effectively and go to court. He black, he got a Rico charge. His baby mama is threatening to leave some horse Sowing him for money. Oh yeah. I forgot about that, oh bitch, who puts the he grabbed in the store is getting more money. That's two separate things. That's not one thing, ladies and gentlemen, it's two.
Speaker 1:Oh, did you hear about the leaks, though, that are coming out of Georgia?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes. Who did it? What was that? I can't remember. The black man's lawyer did it. The ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I guess I was the pro proffer is what they call it when you're trying to see if you have information valuable enough to cut a deal Right.
Speaker 2:And then the other thing was this fucking willing? They are just making her a living institution.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and I don't. And then the media keeps going to this 70% of our population in the middle of nowhere. What do you think about that? I live down Trump. You are not talking to someone in the suburbs of Pennsylvania, in the suburbs of Michigan. You are not talking to.
Speaker 1:That's the thing, though, like those, people in the rural areas have an outsized say in our system.
Speaker 2:No, but I'm saying they're not going to the suburbs, they're going out to the middle of the middle and saying and they, there's a Black people. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's entertaining? Yeah, absolutely. I think that's one of the reasons I don't watch too much television. News is just simply because most of the news is pretty boring for the most part, and it's you can tell it in a very short period of time. I feel like most of cable news could be summarized in a report that's two hours long. You wouldn't be able to do it at all in one chunk. They're like two minutes. How about putting it this way, about 30. I would say about a third of the information presented is valuable and presented and actually in a way that is entertaining and so forth. Rest of it is that's it is giving a lot.
Speaker 1:It's a large margin. I'm sure some programs are more or less. I can't say that I get much. I don't get too much.
Speaker 2:Best better from, from podcasts or so forth, but it's a little better, yeah, but all I'm saying is like Lord geez, I want them to stop a year out. We don't. Yeah, and so I have a friend of mine who is a, that's true, he's a well-known. Poster. He's a well-known poster and he's do you believe this shit, dude? I'm on every day with this shit. I don't believe that. And he told me was like yo, Joe is going to win Handily.
Speaker 2:There is no alternative in the world, fine we look now where everybody shows up on page we are, we about to go? Yeah, we're recording, okay, so I got this one. I got this one.
Speaker 1:I got this one. I got this one. Okay, so I got this one, since we do have some more people on about. So Greg is doing a Story about what gay lingo? Yes, so I found a video that I couldn't even transcribe because the lingo I didn't understand. You see, if you understand half of the words that are coming out of this man's mouth, I'm a player on.
Speaker 3:Black guy that only bangs black guys is an enemy. No, I'm black. I've only has black women or black queer friends is your friend. Black sent though, he's an enemy. Twinks married to muscular black men are your enemies, but married to chubby black men are your friend. White guy that specifically bangs a lot of black guys is not your friend unless he has a fat ass. However, if he knows what the phrase PAWB means and self identifies as one, he knows too much he cannot be your friend.
Speaker 3:Black guy who only bangs non black guys is an enemy. However, he can be your friend if he enjoys Eiffel towering dudes with other black guys. However, if the bottom in question has a kink for black guys, the whole thing is canceled. Do not pass, go, do not collect 200. You're all enemies now entering black queer calculus. So stay with me. If two black guys are married and at least one of them is bald, they are open. They both have hair, though they're not open. Do not approach them. They're at the party to look sexy together. Finally, non black hunters are fine as long as they're handsome, however, by black men like me must like black women, thank you.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't know what the fuck you talking about, but there was this time when there's like boy math, girl math, and he was doing black gay math.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna have to send that. Go ahead and send that clip to Swag. We're going for one now I will.
Speaker 1:yeah, cause that was like what BSWB? I guess it's like white boy with booty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause I don't understand any of that shit.
Speaker 1:White boy with booty let's see how it's a fat ass is, but if he calls himself a white boy with booty, you can't trust him. He's not cool, apparently, apparently I don't know who knows, but yeah, no, lingo's interesting, I think, as we get older. So what I'm going?
Speaker 2:to do is I'm introducing, like from precious burning, the meaning of shame.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we once had that clip but I could not find it to save my life. But you can find it again, yeah. So if you're on Patreon, make sure to join Greg tomorrow at noon. This episode is going to air on Tuesday. I'm gonna try to get this put out there. If you're a patron, you have full access to the show already, but I will also give you a edited version on Monday in case you didn't catch the live recording or if we happen to record the podcast off air, like we're just trying something new. This is a way of giving us more productivity, but also I guess we're working out what we're gonna do on the shows.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we're gonna include you all in the plan, because I need to get help, so don't they get lost yeah. So tomorrow we're talking about like the meaning of shade and how galing all has made its way into everyday vernacular. And then some people still have problem with gay people. There will be no TV radio, none of that stuff, without us Entertainment. I can't tell you how. The entertainment industry is not necessarily homophobic, but it does not paint a clear picture of the black queer male.
Speaker 1:I would say it's in some ways conservative. I don't know if it's homophobic, but I think business in general is conservative, like small C conservative in the sense that they don't like things that are different or stand out. Then we all have to be.
Speaker 2:RuPaul, they're comfortable with that. But they're not cool with Dennis Rodman or DeWayne whatever his name is the basketball player. They're not comfortable with that. Well, here here calling Will.
Speaker 1:Smith, gay now, apparently that's been, that's been, or bisexual, yeah.
Speaker 2:His, like his bodyguard, got fired or whatever got fired. But I know for a fact since y'all paying for this, I need y'all some tea. I know for a fact you are not gonna go to the Smiths or the Smiths have everything under dual control.
Speaker 3:Even on a film set.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's no entering doors with one person, one person.
Speaker 3:They have a very very.
Speaker 2:They're very aware of shit like this, and so Mrs Smith said the other day as they were chasing her down yes, I think so, lumberjack Listen that she said she gonna sue. She said her and Will are going to sue and he's going to lose bodyguard. If you broke now, you gonna be broke or shut your fucking hole, cause you don't know what you're talking about. Now. These rumors, true or not, have been out there for years, malcolm.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I'm sure you're gonna go ahead and feel as if I good luck, bro, get your hope. You got a good attorney, motherfucker as you guys. Let me tell you something you going up against almost a billion dollars and they gonna burn your mother and where you gonna work at. Yeah.
Speaker 1:What you gonna do. That was one of the things I always thought about. I always thought of Will and Jada as that exceptional couple because they stayed together for so many years, and so I can see how a lot of people might feel some kind of way about Jada now Talking about how they broke up years ago and their relationship was fairly open during that time.
Speaker 2:But if that's what they needed to stay together, yeah. If the man like penis how many of us out there don't like penis? Yeah, why does he have to live by a different standard? There are tons of married men that like dick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is true, but it's something that people yeah, people don't want to admit that though, Especially even straight women who will have these fantasy crushes on men they definitely don't want them to be anywhere near any dick.
Speaker 2:No, they're a problem, dude, let these people live. Listen, if you can hear me, and you a married man and you like penis and your wife is good, would it. Live your mother effing life? Live it, love it. Get you all the dick. Just roll around and dick just revel in the dick. Just do what you gotta do. So I'm gonna just I'm gonna always hold on one second. Let me give my input pleasure. As we always say on M3, it's about communication and you have to communicate about what is going on in your life. Go ahead, mike, go ahead and close up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so I'm gonna sign off. But for Wednesday this week, I'm gonna do a little talk about making friends and being we touched on it earlier in the podcast but about sensible ways that introverts can meet people. I'm gonna maybe actually talk about making room in your schedule to go interact with people, cause that's the thing that introverts do not do. Naturally, we're not gonna be the type that goes out there, so I'm gonna make it a point to do it in person and online, and I'm gonna maybe bring that experiment to our broadcast, which is gonna be Wednesday, I think. At this point I'm gonna sign off. Make sure to check us out on all the channels Spotify, apple or wherever you get your podcasts and I will catch you in the next episode. Peace.