The M3 Bearcast from Male Media Mind
The M3 Bearcast from Male Media Mind
Navigating Uncharted Political Waters w/ Greg
When the political landscape shifts beneath our feet, it's those unshakable moments that define us. Greg and I, Malcolm, found ourselves in the throes of such a seismic event after Trump's staggering victory in the Iowa caucuses. We wrestle with the implications of his win, particularly across liberal counties, and scrutinize the possible reshaping of GOP's strategies post-Roe v. Wade reversal. The discussion doesn't shy away from the sensitive topics either; we're digging into the incumbent advantage, the notion of a shrinking Republican base, and the looming legal troubles that could sway Trump's chances in 2024.
Voter apathy is a silent killer of democratic participation, yet it's the heartbeat of our second act where we strive to awaken the dormant voices in our electoral process. Capturing the frustration of non-voters, we cast a hopeful gaze towards strategies that might realign older demographics towards stability and away from political whirlwinds. Drawing from the Clintons' legacy and the power of principles over personalities, our conversation is a rallying cry for community action and a reminder of the unique stories we each carry into the voting booth.
As we spiral towards a conclusion, we grapple with the philosophical quagmires of truth and identity in today's hyperreal landscape. We're not just talking about Baudrillard's theories; we're living them as we dissect narrative collapse and its profound impact on our understanding of events like the January 6th insurrection. Our dialogue takes us through the importance of mentorship, the complexities of political decisions, and the significance of proactive political engagement—as exemplified by organizations like "Vote Save America." Buckle up, and join us on this journey through the murky waters of politics, truth, and the power of a single vote.
Hello and welcome to the M3 Bearcast. My name is Malcolm Travers. I am joined here with the talented Mr Drayden. What's going on, greg, lovely.
Speaker 2:Everything is lovely.
Speaker 1:This will be the political panic edition of the M3 Bearcast.
Speaker 2:I believe this is episode 54.
Speaker 1:And we have just gotten past the Iowa caucuses. Trump, of course, won without even really campaigning, you know. I mean he sent like surrogates while he was in court. I think he may have done one event which was like his. No, he did a couple he did a couple. Yeah, it was literally nothing. The Santas visited every county twice there are 99 counties in Iowa.
Speaker 1:He literally spent about $50 million setting up a ground game that, like no other Republican candidate could, just to get blown out 30 points. And it was funny. One of the things is I am a pessimist and Greg here is an optimist, so let me give you my pessimistic view of the Iowa caucuses. One person pointed out that obviously not all the counties in Iowa are the same. One county in particular that encompasses Des Moines is a pretty liberal area. It's a college town, it's mostly the lowest level of you know, evangelical Christians, lowest number of conservatives in general, and Trump won that county by 11 points. It was one of his lowest wins mind you.
Speaker 1:But even if Trump had won every county by only 11 points, he still would have had the highest majority of any primary caucus goer in history. 11 points above your opponent is a blowout. He won by 30. So the people who would have voted for Des Santas were in Iowa. This is one of the things that people point out, Like his extreme right wing sickle.
Speaker 1:It was absolutely trying to get those voters, and he did. He got quite a few. He went from 3% to 20. That's okay and the way someone told me to think of it like this Trump is running as an incumbent. Even though he has like a gap year, A lot of the primary people still see him as the president. Like Joe Biden is not legitimate to them, so he's an incumbent and as they'd incumbent he's quite weak. That's the only optimistic thing I can say about it is that he is a weak incumbent. But we've never had like incumbent versus incumbent Like big. Usually, when someone loses, they go to fuck away.
Speaker 2:Don't make me laugh. It's not my turn to talk yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's my positive thing that he is weaker than he was in 2020.
Speaker 3:He mentioned before he went on air.
Speaker 1:He did mention in the general he's going to be weaker, but you realize that it was a very close election. I don't know if you ever got this, but you were saying the thousand votes in Iowa was small. Yes, it was Biden won by the last.
Speaker 2:Yes, but, dear friend, please, you might need wine for this conversation. Hello America, how?
Speaker 3:are you?
Speaker 2:I come bearing good news, and the good news I come bearing is a lot of good news. So the good news is, statistically speaking and we're talking just numbers here, ladies and gentlemen his chances were better If he would have won. If he was going to win, it was being 2020. He was more popular, yeah, his chances were better. So, as I say every Saturday at 12 pm, eastern Saturday time, saturday on M3 with myself Listen, all we have to do is vote and do the best we can, and I truly, I, okay, so I also. So here's the good news the, the overturning of Roe v Wade, has fucked them for generations. They can't get away from that stench. So here is the problem with this. That's problem number one. The problem number two is the first time, in 2016, he was an experiment, yeah, but time we got to 2020, he was a failed experiment. And in 2024, he is now even worse, because the actual American electorate does not want a candidate that's in court all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's proven. Yeah, so here's. So remember that red wave yeah, in the midterms. If I was a Republican person, I would be very afraid of 2024, because there is no way I'm going to. I'm going to. This is going to be like a belly. Rub you ready? There is no way. They should have only have the house by two seats and they should technically have the Senate. Yeah, cause, if we remember correctly, joe was even more unpopular at the midterms. Yeah, that's true. Then he is now Okay. So let me give you number three. Number three is he was basically convicted of rape.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:Now the point number four I'm going to. I'm going to give you 10 points, Give me a second. So point number four is he is back in court for the same defaming the same person. Yeah, and he did it. His lawyer literally played the tape from the same day of him doing the same thing. So his lawyer says when this trial is over, there is a very good chance that we will be right back, yeah, To where we are. So my guess is he's going to get anywhere. She's going to get anywhere from 50 to 100 million bucks.
Speaker 1:He just won't. He just won't stop, just to say they're only asking for 10 right now, but he keeps doing it like you could be 10 for each instance. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:And so, and even I. So, okay, I have to make an admission. I have to sneak and watch Fox News. I do Because I have to know what the assholes are doing. Why do you do that to yourself? I don't know. It's because if the killer's going to come, I got no. Which direction? Yeah, I just do, bro, but for the next 10 months I cannot depend on you for anything positive, like next December. You're back. Okay, we're good, I'm sure, but until November. The eighth and the sad part, point number five is the Republican base is so small. Yeah, we are being held hostage by the news media. Ladies and gentlemen, trump sells papers and he gets ratings because he's bombastic. Yeah, but yeah. Point number six is we've all proven the point that we want stability in government. Yeah, we all want that stability. So in point number seven is they can't even run the house of the house. They can't. This is their second speaker. Oh, in point number eight is the second speech. Everybody's mad. The second speaker. He about to be ousted. I don't know if they will.
Speaker 1:But they start like he's cutting the same deals that well yeah, I was gonna say they're pushing out McConnell to. And, yeah, this speaker is basically pulling off the same thing as McCarthy. Yes, yeah, the same deal, but I think they are going to probably do something on immigration before it's done.
Speaker 2:They got they have the toughest immigration bills Even though they got a step forward.
Speaker 2:But the Republican senators are like dude, this is the best, yeah Of the best, because the point was made even if we get the White House back in the Senate and the House, the Democrats are going to make it hell for us and we're never going to get this deal again. And so it is came out into the open that Trump wants them to be disagreeable. Sure, yeah, yeah, so it's been so right, it's been verified. So the thing that I love is I don't know who in the hell is working in CNN's like poll room, but they like come out with a poll, like right after a situation.
Speaker 2:So 72% of Americans want some type of compromise and they blame them if they don't get one. So the plurality of America says we understand that something need to be done at the border, and the Democrats say here, have your way. But they don't want that. So, joe, again the skilled politician that Uncle Joe is, he's gonna be like look, I've given you this and he's on in front of anybody that has a hot mic. He is in front of it. He was like I've given them everything that they asked for. All I want is for us to keep our word to our allies. Yeah, and so. Well, now number nine, point number nine, is there. So gas is as low as it's been in seven years. Yeah, like in middle America, a gallon of gas is $2,028. That's true, finally, nobody can deny that. And they're like oh, and the orange fellas, are we gonna drill?
Speaker 2:we are drilling, we are drilling the hell out of America.
Speaker 1:So I would say that it's even to the chagrin of many liberals. It should be noted. But mine might have very aggressive green policies, but he's also aggressive drilling and that confuses people. They're like what do we say? I don't know.
Speaker 2:But this is the whole thing. This is the whole thing. The whole thing that I remember in midterms was like I'm starting to feel better and I don't have.
Speaker 1:COVID and I'm not broke.
Speaker 2:So I think we're okay Okay so I will give you this.
Speaker 1:Okay, so those things are true For one. I think I have about 20 more, so just let me know. Okay, no, it's okay. I think the one that is convincing is about the economy. It is expanding in ways that, even compared to other countries, is strong, like it's. Yeah, compared to other industrialized nations, like the United States is actually.
Speaker 2:Germany is free right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so that is a point. It would be one thing if the entire world was doing well, but actually on the world stage we are doing well in this economy. I would say I also agree with you on the point that Joe Biden has become a more skilled politician. I have noticed that this season so far, like his speech, some of his comments.
Speaker 2:We were just talking about the. We were just talking about the clap back to today's clap back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yesterday's clap back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's say yesterday's clap back.
Speaker 1:People like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yesterday's clap back was well. The other candidate is very flawed and he has a very tiny, tiny ego. And in his tiny ego. So the president gets in front of the hot mic today and he says and the reporter says President Biden, what do you think about Trump's win in Iowa? Our dear president says is it really a victory if 50,000 out of 110,000 people vote? There's a snowstorm and then he goes. I don't think that's a victory.
Speaker 2:Now the night last night this nigga went off. He started true social or whatever it called the social ease or whatever those things are. He started posting in all caps. He was like, even if the president does something that may be against the law, you should be forgiven for it. And how the hell you gonna do this.
Speaker 1:And yeah, yeah, he was tween doing response to quite a bit, because I think that was when that one was in response to the judge dealing with and that shit was ridiculous when they were trying to argue that the president had immunity from anything and he was repeating some of those things that his lawyer was saying. Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. But here is the thing that brings me pessimism, and I think you, we and I have already talked about it it has to deal with the liberal base. So I had noticed, especially since the Israel Gaza war in particular, that many people who are hardcore liberals are breaking with Biden, especially over the war, but are just, I don't know, antagonizing mainstream democratic politics in a sense, and there's always been this group of people who consider themselves independence, even though there is no way in hell they ever vote for a Republican.
Speaker 3:When they mean they're independence.
Speaker 1:They are Democrats who are ashamed or unwilling to identify as a Democrat.
Speaker 2:Can I share with you something? You know how it's like that relative you go to the house for Thanksgiving or holiday. They can cook, but you don't fuck with them like that. But you go anyway. You're like, oh, I don't really fuck with them like that, but I'm gonna go check the food is good, I'm not gonna die after dinner. We have this internal as liberal or progressive people Cause I have to check myself, cause I actually am more conservative than I let on, and I think you are too we just try our best to be. Oh, sally Struthers, I try my best to feed the poor and help the homeless, but I, somewhere deep inside, I believe people should work hard for what they get. I believe that people should educate themselves. But anyway, don't send letters people. This is not gonna be a sin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say that the education might be one of the bastions of liberalism, but anyway it is.
Speaker 2:but I said, we bitch, and we bitch up until what is it? We bitch until August. We just whoever that motherfucker is, we just rally on around. Just remember back in 2008. And we all were like ain't nobody go elect, no black man.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true.
Speaker 2:And we were in. It was deep, and it was deep up until the Democratic convention.
Speaker 1:It was like this is one of the things I wanted to bring up, because I don't know like the subtext of this entire conversation we're having is that it was sometime after the 2016 election, in 2017, maybe like that summer or that winter, I really had to take a break. I took a step back from M3. And it probably had a lot to do with just seeing you know Trump be president and it not be considered like we're in brazaro world. I don't know. I was just like I can't deal with this anymore. I'm out. I went into a little bubble for three years.
Speaker 1:I didn't talk to nobody. I'm trying to prevent that from happening again, and here's one of the things that I'm thinking I'm going to have to deal with in order to prevent that from happening is dealing with people who I know, especially in 2016, who were like what's the point in voting? You know what is the like? The Democrats are justice, corrupt. There's I don't really like his policies on this or that. They're not seeing it as a crisis. They're like like you were saying in real terms, our lives will not change that much after Trump is reelected again. It's going to take a while to trickle down.
Speaker 2:I think I just I caught you Say it. I'm just like we're going to edit that part out. Y'all didn't hear that, no, so let me reelected again.
Speaker 1:There will be people I know who either supported Trump or did nothing, neither voted and actively was proud of the fact that they were not voting. Those people will rub me in a way that would be like I want to choke you, yeah, but those people.
Speaker 2:So listen, those people exist and I have a whole family full of them people, yeah, and they going to wonder why they're self security check late, why they ain't get a cost of living raise and blah, blah, blah, blah blah because you didn't pull the lever. So my dear sweet sister called me after Trump got elected. How did this happen? What was my response to her? I said what lever did you pull? She said what do you mean? That's how the fuck it happened.
Speaker 1:You didn't vote.
Speaker 2:And so that's what you said to those people.
Speaker 3:And listen, and this time.
Speaker 2:Listen, we and my prediction is I know you're like, oh, you're so optimistic, but no, I think we're gonna maintain the Senate, we're gonna regain the House and keep the White House, because I'm telling you, what America loves is stability.
Speaker 2:Now I'm telling you it's too much. It is too much. And I'm gonna tell you who is too much, for. The biggest voting block is 65 and over. Yeah, it's too much for them. He's lost those over there because they can't take it. And they know, joe, know the motherfuckers in the world, joe is the reason why we can bomb Yemen and nobody flinches. Ain't nobody saying shit. It wasn't even breaking news. It's like guess what? We bomb Yemen yesterday. Okay, then that is stability. That's cool, hand Luke. Shit. You know what I mean? Because if it was Trump, it would have been Yep. We bomb Yemen and now Yemen's on the way to Florida. You know what I mean? Because no control here's no control. You know what I'm saying? We have the joint chief of staff that's in the hospital bombing motherfuckers. This is the mother he's gonna join.
Speaker 2:Like he has a joystick right. He got rid of prostate cancer and that went away, that whole thing. He was a no-call, no-show at work. I'll be like he worked at McDonald's, that's fine. Yeah, the general was no-call, no-show. He gonna get fired? No, he ain't. He has a joystick in his hospital bed. So you realize how that kind of stuff goes away, and so what is? And then? So let me tell you what's happening.
Speaker 2:So, your house of representatives is trying to impeach the president for no reason, and once we get our heads out of our asses and figure out that we know who the bad people are, you know what I'm saying. Just as a man like, 2016 was a lightning in the bottle, it was just two unpopular people came in at a time when, look, we had this black after you elect a nigga, anything up for grabs, we might as well try to figure that host that holds to the apprentice and the other homeboy looked at the other homeboy and was like what, what you mean Ain't gonna let nigga that holds to the apprentice Donald Trump.
Speaker 2:he running for president.
Speaker 3:Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:And you know what? He called Mexicans rapists again, and we don't like Mexicans, yep. And then women hate women, so they didn't vote for Hillary. They got together and was like I hate a bitch with cangles and she, she Lee Bill, when he didn't fuck this bitch, fuck her. And black people was like we didn't have two years of four, eight years of a black president. I guess we can't ask for no more. We gonna sit this one out, yeah, and middle America file over country, just like, yeah, it's our time, it's our time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Both. Both totals were so low in traditionally democratic states. Because I don't and I'm gonna ask you this one I'm in America, y'all can chime in. What the fuck did the Clintons do to America? Like you gave Bill two terms? Okay, hillary has been around since I don't know Jerusalem. You know what I'm saying. So I think, now that we look back on it, bro, I think, now that we have essentially what's the most corrupt presidency, ever. We look back on the Clintons as the good times. Yeah, he just getting this dick suck oh.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this, though, seriously how do we deal with the apathy on our side? How do we get people excited about voting, or at least to start paying attention to politics in some way, like, how do we make this important to them?
Speaker 2:Listen, joe, ain't that kind of excited nigga. He just ain't that dick. He just I'm gonna get it done.
Speaker 1:Ain't no fireworks Look it's like I was thinking that we gotta move away from people into principles rather than that's what he's pushing.
Speaker 2:So let me offer you this. So it's like the flu shot. You don't necessarily want to go get it, but you do it. It's like I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:We do it I don't know the reality.
Speaker 2:No, eventually, by no means I was going to say those people, the ones who are the apathetic.
Speaker 1:both sides people are the same anti-vaccine motherfuckers I also hate, so who I also hate in my life. I'm just saying they're there.
Speaker 2:But don't take it there, take it like this, take it like this. Look, I'm going to just say this to you, like I say to most people either way you're going to be OK, yeah, you know, but America, please vote. Do the best you can, if you are, if you have extreme worry about this topic, volunteer, reach out to other people. For the first time in my life, I'm going to become a part worker. Yeah, I hope they motherfucking harass me like they do. I'm like they did them too late because I got something, for I thought about that too.
Speaker 1:As, being a larger person, I could be like anti-intimidation type. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, Come to. Yeah, come to my house. We're going to get on the porch. Oh, so I got some hot lead for that ass. Come on to my porch, Step one foot. In my yard. I'm plucking motherfuckers off like a video game, so you know.
Speaker 2:I am not moving. I tell you that much. God bless you, shay and Ruby Moss. God bless y'all. I'm just not doing it. I'm going to sign up, do my because, like you, I am worried. But I'm worried for a different reason. I'm worried because I live in a red state. Yeah, I know the rest of America is going to do, and the problem is and the problem with this is when he loses again, it's going to be all they cheated.
Speaker 1:And oh my.
Speaker 2:God, and I don't want to hear that part. That's the part that's going to fucking me up. That's why I wore my D's nuts hats today, because I don't want to continue hearing about.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're definitely going to continue to hear that and they were going to believe it. And that's the craziest part too, is that they got these people convinced that the FBI had something to do with the January 6th.
Speaker 2:Ask them but I'm sorry to cut you off, but the thing that I was telling people to say stuff like that, ask them niggas in jail who did it? Ask them, ask that dead woman that tried to climb through that window. Was she a part of the FBI?
Speaker 1:That's what I was telling people.
Speaker 2:Because I had people I grew up with. Was the FBI Ask the dead woman? Was it the FBI Ask that dead police officer? Ask those police officers that committed suicide was?
Speaker 3:it the FBI.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying as a person that has retired from being a civil servant like it takes a lot of to make this government run. We talk about the president, the vice president, congress and so on and so forth, but it's people like the Capitol Hill police that you don't even think about until times like this. It's people like motherfuckers that work at the Treasury Department and the HUD and that everyday motherfuckers that keep this thing going. And then now he got to have us. Now he has us all thinking about judges and all of these things, things that we shouldn't have to think about. We shouldn't have to ask the question hey, do you get immunity from everything that was answered during Watergate?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. They're making the same arguments, which is crazy. I am fascinated by the legal part. That's. The thing that I know about myself is that I want to preserve my mental health by stepping away from politics, but it is absolutely fascinating. It is my RuPaul's Drag Race, like one of the things I love about cream. When he talks about RuPaul's Drag Race you can see he's like a little kid with the bubbles.
Speaker 2:But that's how you are with politics.
Speaker 1:I am that way with politics, and that is the problem is that I'm not going to be able to turn myself away from it.
Speaker 2:So can I tell you Can I? Tell you as a person that enjoys it like you do and who has anxiety around it. That's one reason why I created the Black News. I can put it through another filter. I can shorten it. I can put it through another filter. I am watching less news. Yeah, because my Black News segment Saturdays at 12 PM. He's just had a time check on the.
Speaker 2:M3 network boom, but it's shortened. It's things that made me feel right about myself. I no longer talk about the wars, I no longer talk about the bombings. I talk about, I make memes about things Like last weekend it was like, if I told you so, it was a person, but Dr Watson didn't do it. Or this week, if you tune in, I'm going to talk about your former president acting like a man baby in court. Yeah, I can like a fucking whole child in court.
Speaker 1:I know he was trying to go one-on-one with the judge. In a way he was like I want you to kick me out.
Speaker 2:And he said it out loud he did. So here's the other thing let's talk about when Trump loses, and or dies. And this will end. This will end. And so no one has the balls to take his place. It's not going to happen Because they don't have the hoods, for you have to have a certain amount of hoods for, that's just it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was one of the things I was going to say that the political analysts who were comparing DeSantis and Trump in Iowa it was interesting. What they said was that if DeSantis was likable, if he were a person that people liked in person. So one of the things they said was when he would get pushback from voters and at his caucuses or whatever at his events, he would argue with them. He would be visibly irritated at people who didn't agree with him wholeheartedly.
Speaker 2:And then he would start gritting his teeth and shit. You could see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like he was just like I don't like, he gave off that energy. I hate you people. Get away from me, stop asking me questions. Give me the presidency. I was a little man, baby type thing. The thing is, though, on paper, politically, he was absolutely offering the. Maga people everything they wanted.
Speaker 2:And I can, I can, I say it with you again that's something.
Speaker 1:But here's one more thing. Here's the thing he's just a bad politician. All I'm saying is that I think there are plenty of politicians who actually have skill who would be willing to absolutely pretend to be Donald Trump and try to get those voters back. I don't know how successful they'll be Probably not that successful but Because they're not Donald Trump, I think, when it really came down to, a lot of the analysts were saying was just that they, the Iowa people, were just entertained by Trump. They just liked him, it's like, and they just made shit up about him. I saw he's a good family man. Look at it.
Speaker 1:It was a rally or an event held by Eric. He's telling all these stories about how great his dad is, and so they just eat it up. Donald Trump didn't raise his kids. It's true, not only that, they lived with him. You know what he said and I think that was actually in the speech was like I, even though I could always call him, and he calls him and he the crowd just goes wild. He literally phones it in and they're eating it up. Usually, all the political analysts Is as long as I've been alive say I was that type of place. You have to be on the ground and talk to people shake hands? No, you don't.
Speaker 2:You know I answered your own question first of all it's about Incombency. They knew that they're already in love. That's true. With that said, let's talk about Nikki.
Speaker 1:Oh, they were named.
Speaker 2:Nikki Haley. I'm just saying her name is Nimrod. It's like them, right? And so Trump is a bad ass. He's such a bad boy, he misspelled her name on purpose. Oh yeah, he like put. So now he's doing, he's giving her the birth or treatment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, she might be Eligible. I think that's what he said. No, she's not.
Speaker 2:Basically. And so, in the other thing, let me give you point number 11. Last, for 2023, president Biden raised the most money ever for a democratic, yeah, person. That's true, that's a lot. And so, yeah, he has a peacock in his head. He's like fuck y'all. Y'all always underestimate me, and here I go that I'm telling you that. And they were all small dollar donors. Yeah that is huge. That means everybody Worried, like us, yeah, nothing.
Speaker 1:and they said, joe, five dollars, it's true that there was a lot of Building up of the infrastructure for the Democratic committees During Obama and I think he benefits from that. But also he was a part of all of that, you know. So it wasn't like it was a difficult thing and we, you know, it's like he had all the experience and benefits of the Obama runs and learn from those as well. He has skilled, he's a skill fundraiser and politician. That's true.
Speaker 2:He is. And then I realized I saw Michelle and Barack hit the road next week. First lady, dr Biden, it doesn't sound wonderful, yeah, first lady dr Biden and not ex porn whore. First lady Ladies and gentlemen, our first lady was a porn whore. He hated the White House she wasn't in, so how do they wrap themselves in the American flag when the first lady wasn't even born? How does he hate immigrants so bad? He loves a Ukrainian bitch. You're my bad Ukrainian bitch. The piss on him and it's over. He loves that.
Speaker 2:And somebody said other day, cuz he missed court, today His mother-in-law's funeral. Yeah and the person said to me do you really fucking believe? Even knew his mother-in-law.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I remember when they actually Were got their green papers while he was president or whatever, and that was a small blurb. Yeah, yeah, for a second. I think I was in 2018. It's probably like the first time you met them, because I don't even think he knows, I don't even think he knows His youngest son, baron Baron.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think she may have been artificial inseminator.
Speaker 1:I thought about that he seems he comes off as that type of pushy Dom with no dick. Basically he wants it his way, but it's like why?
Speaker 2:I mean, here's the age thing. And somebody in Iowa jumped on Nikki Haley when she was like, keep in mind the average age of the voter in 66, but we have an aging population. They see themselves. And Johnny, I won't be running around doing shit when I'm 80. Fuck you, let's go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know in the next ten years we are gonna have a demographic Crisis in the sense that we will actually have more people in the United States over the age of 65, then under the age of 18, which is to say there's gonna be like a crisis of health care of the elderly, also like it's gonna stress Social security. That's when they're not gonna run out of money, but I think they're gonna have to start paying less. I think they're gonna have to go down 85%, pay back until they can recoup the money, yeah, and so they figure out what the fuck is kind of the restructure and Rejigger social security. It'll still continue to pay, just less, which means that people are gonna have to find another way to pay for all of these increasingly older Americans In the next ten years.
Speaker 2:That's yeah, we're all gonna be like the UK with bad teeth and lopid. They have a problem as well. They have an aging population as well. Yeah, and that's that's what you do. Italy we're gonna join the industrialized world right now. We're good until another decade.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me go ahead and switch to patreon. If you're not already a patron and you're watching this, what are you doing? No, it we don't, because I'm gonna just switch over while I'm talking. But yeah if you become a patron, we're going to give you extra aftershows. You get these live recordings. You get the end of the episode. You also get to. What else do I give you extra?
Speaker 2:You're not gonna be your favorite thing. Oh, yeah, yeah we have corn like a lucky happenstance.
Speaker 1:We do have, like exclusive, a group on telegram that has adult content. We also have just a vanilla group on on telegram where we just Chit chat. You can post topics and get to know us a little better.
Speaker 2:So, patron, Join me tomorrow at 12 pm. Guess what I'm doing tomorrow, malcolm. What's that? I'm going to my cess box. It's been a minute.
Speaker 1:Oh, we got to come on with a graphic for that.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm gonna get John to do a theme song.
Speaker 1:You know, what's so funny is like I those like when I get the calls from the love cast they had they had been a little audacious. I have one for next week. I'm Saving up and I don't know if you saw the one in the group about the the grab bag. Yeah, the sex grab bag.
Speaker 2:That actually happened to me, I got bagged.
Speaker 1:So it was like it was a hookup. It was over at someone's house and it was just like it was. It was money and like a little bit of weed, had a drink and something. But he had clearly Packed a bag for me because he wanted me to leave.
Speaker 2:I was like what money was, how much money was it? How much money $20.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was about. Yeah, I have to get you home. It was enough to get me home. It was actually enough to get me there and back, did you Uber?
Speaker 2:Yeah, uber, yeah, all right but I was just like.
Speaker 1:What it is is like is so efficient and ho-ish. At first I thought it was nice. It is clearly you are A experience player if you are already prepared For the boot out of my bed. Now that I've understood it.
Speaker 2:If you have the time to prepare a whole bag, you put $20 in it. A little bit of weed In some other provisions.
Speaker 1:That is very thoughtful it was actually because as I went I rolled that joint.
Speaker 2:I smoked it as I waited. It was right Transportation was take care of. You got a nut.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was very nice, Although I was also being treated like a little piece of meat, but I was a happy piece of meat.
Speaker 2:What you be looking for, love, with this one night stand, didn't you?
Speaker 1:go over there. I wasn't looking for love, though.
Speaker 2:Listen, listen, kudos, give me a bag. I know right, I want pristello cake. Cut pristellos in my bag and I need $40 because Uber is expensive, yeah.
Speaker 1:I guess. So you could also yeah better, better cookies, I mean some, uh, what was the pepper farm cookies?
Speaker 2:Yeah, in the bag you have some lion. Yes, yeah, with a bunches. It was nice, you know, and the weed was good. What kind of cookies did you have in the bag?
Speaker 1:He was like chocolate, I don't know. I think some Kepler, it was literally for kids. It was like a kids lunch.
Speaker 2:He gave you his children's. No, baby, you can't have a juice box. Daddy has to have those for his horse.
Speaker 1:He had to yell the head and go on your way, you cannot have a juice box because it's for your. All right, I want to play one video for you.
Speaker 2:You know I'm taking that for tomorrow. I'm kicking the subject off right now. What would you do if a bitch gave you a hard bag with $20 and some Kepler elf cookies?
Speaker 1:All right, this one is like Vocabulary Craziness. I you know how love good new words. So this one has several new words and it's dealing with conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2:Oh god, I hate new words. I hate new words.
Speaker 1:Okay, here we go. Don't make this good, all right.
Speaker 3:So do you ever notice? You might have a conversation with some friends in which you Express something about something that's going on in the world let's say the israel palestine conflict right now and you say your opinion. You're like, oh my gosh, this is what I think about this. And then you start to disagree, or they disagree with you, and when you start talking to them about it, what becomes quickly apparent is that you actually can't agree on even a basic set of facts about what is even happening, and because of that basic set of facts is different. You start immediately having differences in the cause and effect of what happened and where things came from and why people made the decisions they were making in the first place. And as you talk with them, it seems strange. It's not just the case that you can't agree on a narrative of what happened, but it almost seems like some of the people in the conversation, including maybe you are just reacting to whatever the last bit of information that came out actually was. You find yourself in a situation in which all of history, maybe all of narrative, both is and isn't true at the same time, that no matter what's happening, it seems to be happening in a kind of eternal present with no explanation, only reactions. And not only are there many different types of narratives that are available which could explain what we're observing in the moment. All of those seem equally plausible to one another.
Speaker 3:In 2013, this phenomenon was described by Douglas rush cough in his book present shock. In this book, douglas rush cough outlines not just narrative collapse, but some other really strange sounding phenomena like digifrenia and fractal noia, and this concept of narrative collapse, I think, is extremely important to understand the world we're living in today, this idea of a post-narrative type of storytelling. Now, rush cough would say that in years past, human beings had to construct a narrative through their own senses and observations or in conversation with one another. That you would construct a narrative Communally and people would basically understand what happened in the world and would be able to interpret it that way. But because we live in a time in which everything is now filtered through the internet through all kinds of different ways, including deep fakes and edited or photoshopped things and AI creation, we no longer have the ability to really put a narrative together in the way that we used to, and now all of these stories effectively exist post narrative, and that world of increasing simulation is what John Bordurard would call hyper reality, that is, we're living in a type of reality Divorced from our actual experience of it.
Speaker 3:Now, because of this phenomenon, rush cough notices that there are three basic things that are going on in media in a reaction to it. The first is that stories tend to not have consequences anymore, and in fact he cites the simpsons as a very good example of this. That is, nothing of consequence ever happens in the show. The family doesn't change. It's been almost 30 years, the family is exactly the same.
Speaker 3:The second is that the viewing experience itself becomes the kind of narrative that is, that you're not watching the Kardashians because it's interesting. You're watching it ironically, you're having fun watching it because you're like look at these idiots, or whatever. Your reaction to it is. A lot of reality tv functions from this premise. And the third is that the viewing experience becomes less about consuming the story in order to discover the resolution of the plot and more of a kind of experience of piecing together what's actually happening. And the specific example rush cough uses here is the walking dead, which is interesting because if you pick up that show at Almost any point, you have to spend a bunch of time going.
Speaker 3:Okay, wait, what's actually happening right now. Okay, so what, brendan? People are consuming media differently. That's always happened. What does that matter? Great question.
Speaker 3:This becomes less theoretical and far more scary when you begin to apply this to real world events such as the january 6 Insurrection, wherein the people who engaged in it were surprised that there were somehow any actual consequences for their actions.
Speaker 3:Or people, donald trump amongst them watch what happened with a kind of weird cool collected. Oh look at this craziness that's happening as if it wasn't actually happening in the world. And finally, an insane, continuous conversation about what actually happened that day, as if, for some reason, we didn't have Tons and tons of evidence of exactly what happened that day, and the consequences of this are extremely grave. We can see it right now all of the media is continuously talking about january 6th as if it was just a blip in the reality tv show of america and not a dire, insane, crazy, ridiculous, absolutely upending Activity in the history of this country. It is because of narrative collapse. That is what douglas rushkov would say. It is because of this increasing hyper reality that were in a situation in which we Cannot actually agree on any narrative that happened. That is what narrative collapses, and that is the absolutely Terrifying thing for us to all now live in wait wait.
Speaker 1:So the vocabulary words are hyper reality and narrative collapse. Hyper reality comes from Simulation and semi-lacrim, which was was bodriards philosophical text bank, basically saying that we don't experience the world In first person anymore, is always reported to us through someone else and therefore we actually don't necessarily have Any confirmation that information is true. You could deny it at any point. So they want to say people who still believe the earth is flat, because their personal experience when they look outside is the earth is flat and they've been taught that news is fake and you should be skeptical of everything. And so they're like why should I believe the world is round, because I'm looking out there and it looks flat. That's the difference between reality and hyper reality is that some people reject things off hand because of people like trump, calling it fake news, or People tell you to do your own research, or just like the natural skepticism that comes from having to digest Unsellient news, like with January 6th.
Speaker 1:If they're mentioning people who are on the right, who want to support trump can, even though there's tons of evidence being recorded by the perpetrators themselves, not to mention tons of news sources and documentation, they can construct their own narratives from it. That's what fucker colson did right when he got all the footage. He tried to make some weird thing how made the fbi the culprits, or whatever? And it is equally plausible to certain people, right? If you're not a high information person, if this is it what you're necessarily paying a close attention to or have much deference to, and it gives people a great deal of power, like someone like trump.
Speaker 1:My point that I was going to make about politics is that I hope that the left doesn't respond to trump iism by making a left version of it, because I would be as dismayed If there was, like a left wing demagogue who made everyone pretend reality wasn't the way that it was and they believed in him because they were on his side, right like. Ultimately, that's what it's about. It's just about factions and he's our faction leader and we don't really care that he's a criminal or that his tiny hands that he stinks or that he's so or that he insults the military. This is one of the sacred cows of conservatism and he can do that because he's their champion.
Speaker 2:The one word for all those words that kept my mind is alternative facts. Yeah, yeah that was the highlight. Yeah, I think that's what it all boils down to.
Speaker 1:There are alternative facts.
Speaker 3:I like what she said the turn of phase Right.
Speaker 2:And that was like what?
Speaker 1:three days into his administration?
Speaker 2:Yes, Three whole fucking days. It was like wow, correct, you know, like uh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's that crazy making right there. That's what I'm saying. That's what was so disturbing to me. Was this collapse of disturbing of the of reality? I guess we don't. Why aren't we living in a single world? Now I am in therapy. Yes, this is one of those things.
Speaker 2:Me too Yay.
Speaker 1:So this is one of those things I'm going to work through in therapy to learn how to accept that people will believe crazy shit and I cannot change that.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. But so people wait. We're just going to think this is not a new phenomenon, no, With Trump. Some people believe that Nixon didn't do anything. Some people believe that Clinton, it was all a setup by the Republican. So yeah but this is the first time that we have been governed by a call to personal, and this is the first time, and it's I my belief is it's because of the internet we can all have live our version of the truth.
Speaker 2:In fact, it's because have we seen that person that on the internet to have this great life and everything is happy, and they got some dope clothes and they have a dope partner, and they got a dope job and they're always happy. And then you're at your out one day you meet them and like, hey, I'm Jaja Biggs from the internet. How are you? Yeah, and they're sitting there having lunch by themselves, yeah, and they are on their phone and I forgot what that? Oh no, that movie her it was with.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It was very much, yeah, but very much that way. So if you can craft anything to look any kind of way that you want inside bar, I know disabled people that you would not know they were disabled. So you saw, the wheel chair and let's not hide from those facts. I made a post one time about I was celebrating several pausing methods in March. And why are you celebrating that? Because I have several pausing? No way, oh my God. No, you don't. What the fuck? You know what the fuck? They just went in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, then they accused me of cat fishing people, yeah, yeah. So they chose a set of facts that they wanted to know and I let them know. I was like there are other sides to me other than that, but I don't run away from that part of myself I. I that's really crazy. They just pick, they cherry pick the parts of the life that they want to be a partner. Yeah, it's the same thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's. Yeah, we definitely live in, yeah, that that term hyper reality. I remember I was actually watching like a lecture on philosophy and they were mentioning some of the references to Baudrillard in the matrix and it actually got me to thinking about the matrix differently, because the story wasn't necessarily about a simulated reality. Obviously, in the movie it's about a simulated reality, but it was also about do you accept a harsh truth over a comforting lie? That's really what I think that is too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's definitely too. I think we as a society and you know what I think when you were out, I went back and I looked at some of your shows, because I have to, because I have those for you. One of my goals is always to see things through your lens, whether I agree or disagree. If I'm representing you on your hour, this is a time I don't want Wednesday's hour with you to look like Saturday with me. We're two different people, and you covered this topic that I went down to rabbit hole with until you got me. It was some years ago. It was just like how do you know if something is the truth or lies something around it? And once you find out the thing that you believe was an absolute lie, how do you deal with it? Yeah, all kinds of craziness, answers, and all of us, a person. I'll cut them off for you know. You gonna know you being lied to, because God will reveal. That is the blackest answer. I'm just black, so black. That is a black.
Speaker 1:To me, god will reveal is the same as saying time will tell. You know, it's just a generic top out. Honestly, that's a good one. That's a good one, I will tell. God will reveal.
Speaker 2:But Malcolm. So last time you were sick you said something to me that was very profound. I know you don't remember, but the thing that you said to me was we spent all this time worrying about shit that doesn't even really matter. I think that changed my life at that moment. I know that you were in those space to see that because you weren't feeling well. But I don't like we worry, that is my life.
Speaker 1:I can't help sometimes to worry about shit that doesn't matter Nothing. That's one of the reasons I'm in therapy really is just to try to tone it, that fear and anxiety down about things, about my own appearance, about my own way I move through the world. You know the quality of my work, everything I'm so overly critical. And it doesn't matter, like anytime it comes out like I learned from it, or it's good.
Speaker 2:Either way, it's going to be okay and I can't be okay and I tell and I have this. It's an awful habit, but the podcast is doing very well. You know, thank you. But and I tell people, I said I gotta tell my boy I gotta get my best.
Speaker 2:Malcolm has taught me everything. He's coached me for years, so if it wasn't good, I would just go into a hole and I'm like what do you mean? I was like this man has invested in me terribly to make me a better podcaster and so I had to explain to my friend, because you have to learn about tone and audio and video and visual and audience participation and the tone of your voice and you don't want to come across as yelling and you want to be as quiet as possible. You want to have engaged topics. These things took us years to cultivate.
Speaker 2:Yes, and if you ever doubt yourself, I'm talking to you right now as your homie. If you ever doubt yourself about anything, just please know. Whatever you know, you have passed it on to another person and everything. That's good that you have passed it on to another person, because, ladies and gentlemen, I didn't want to do this shit, Not at all. What is he? Would convince me every now and again. Yeah, but he was like Greg, it's a pandemic, Come on. And I was like fuck off, I don't want to do this shit Talk. And at the time, like me and my brother, we lived in our two bedroom apartment downtown and I think it's nothing sucks worse than living downtown when everything is closed. It's like a Will Smith movie.
Speaker 3:You realize it's terrible.
Speaker 2:You convinced me and we went through these things and the education began. But I said that to say when I think we all doubt our space in the world. Yeah, I think that the first part of this podcast we're talking about worries, about politics, I think it. I think the problem then becomes it's the uneasiness about what's next. Right, because we do have a binary choice. We do have a binary choice and we do. We can pick the person that nurture us to good health or, where we have the other person that will blow it up. Yeah, we don't trust our neighbor to make the right decision.
Speaker 1:We don't, and because they haven't given us a reason to but they have. They've shown us that they will pick the worst choice. They've shown us that their darker natures will sometimes triumph, especially if given the right circumstances. So to me, it really is about Demil you. What is the world going to be like around election time? So there are good things that are coming there, bad things are coming, but the truth is we really don't know we don't and I have to learn how to deal with that uncertainty.
Speaker 1:I am dealing with it like right now Really good job.
Speaker 2:But let me tell you as a members person yeah, we do the right thing. More than that.
Speaker 3:So true, I believe that so in 16.
Speaker 2:It was an anomaly and I went to it. All things happen. Yeah, I can't tell you what happened. It was that one motherfucker that didn't vote Nova Scotia, I don't know, but let me tell you, every since then he's lost yeah, not hearing, and none his candidates is lost.
Speaker 1:He's lost Literally, like everything he touches turns to shit and he's gonna be a weaker candidate and I think more people are gonna take him seriously, like it's true that Democrats probably did not take his president's Ambition seriously because I was laughing my ass up.
Speaker 2:Like you mean the racist nigga from Interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, I think it was a successful show. I didn't want to say one. I do want to say one thing about your podcast, though, and it might as well plug it before we go check out the G spot. It is excellent, and I'm one of the things I just want to say is that I think it is a that you put. You clearly put yourself in it, and I know you've been thinking about doing it for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean for a while, like you could tell, like there was your full humanity was brought to it through the topics and you already had the skills from doing the live streams and things that we've been doing. And I know you've been thinking about doing it for a while and so when you pull the plug or you actually pull the trigger on it, and it was good, I was yeah, I was very proud of it and it is I'm just telling you from what this is episode 54.
Speaker 1:This should be episode 154, because I've been skipping, like it's tough and I'm trying to, even now, still Find a way to be more consistent and you actually keeping me consistent by showing up.
Speaker 2:I realized, but it was a holiday. I was like, okay, he's gonna think I forgot I'm a Carlos, as tomorrow Put together, it's. So I have scheduled days. I'm almost finished the season. Oh yeah, that's good. Yeah, and some.
Speaker 2:So, ladies and gentlemen, if you're listening to the G spot, they are happier topics coming. Yeah, because, well, the first four episodes are About male grief. So the last Story or male grief I have, is coming up Next win with the 24th, and then I interview a psychiatrist about the prior three shows, and then we go on to arts and entertainment. Yeah, politics. In fact, I interview this gentleman named John who was the first assistant to Congressman Elijah Cummings, oh yeah, and now he works for the mayor of Chicago. So we'll be talking about that's great, democratic, democratic politics, and how they changed and how the how do we engage? And I might have you on for this one, because it might need two people, because I, we, I want to know from him. How do we engage Younger people, because we're best audience. Yeah, absolutely, and I'm okay, they're busy driving Uber. They're trying to make it Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I know I found some organizations and I'm gonna research and maybe be great to run it by someone who actually knows which ones that we could promote. I know that there was one. It was so I just heard it on a podcast. We'll just call a blue voter list.
Speaker 2:That's the one that you can work the the phone from home. Okay, I'll send you the login. Let me dig through some emails. I think I still have their information.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2:Vote bluecom.
Speaker 1:I believe right. And then I guess the other one was just was it tied to pod save America? They have this thing called vote save America when they just have a single place where you can register and find your registration Right, your location, your voting location, register and all the information you would need.
Speaker 2:And those of our friends who live in red states. Like ourselves, we both live in the same red state Go get your update your driver's license, update your ID.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good point. We don't want to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't want them to have any excuses for you, doctor fobs, show up on time, stay ass and learn. It's the teeny, tiny things are Really crazy. Think about and so really real quick welcome. I tell people all the time what's really crazy that we live in a democracy, that black people would they have to Revote on our ability to vote every so often?
Speaker 1:Yeah, think about that. And not only that. They've actually I've heard of cases in Alabama, mississippi, where they tried to use the Voting Rights Act To say that white people were being discriminated against. So not only that, that's the kind of crazy shit Republicans come up with. Yeah, yeah, I mean a press by black people like what?
Speaker 2:Ream court is trying to tell you that, oh, racism doesn't exist. We know there's no need for the voting rights act and some gay like Arkansas, sarah's Huckabee Sanders, the fuck Tarty governor of Arkansas, tried to reverse Um the segregated schools act. Yeah, she lost miserably, of course.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It is crazy that is a winning strategy for some Republicans. So, and the fact that they even think, even though they might be wrong in some cases, the fact that they even, you know, genuinely believe that's a winning strategy, is fucking that's for a lot of.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna leave you with this. I'm gonna leave you with another Thing to make you happy. Hmm, so there are 18 Seats in the city in New York. That were up in the toss, so they will Progressive. We lost all 18 seats, but it is all. 18 seats are now leaning blue. Yeah, so that's what's gonna keep us.
Speaker 1:Trust me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do believe that. Yeah, so that's what's gonna keep. Now they, and then they rejuvenate districts here in Georgia.
Speaker 1:So I think that's gonna several other states too. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I think that may be good, so we'll keep our fingers crossed. Register to vote www vote gov. Okay, you want to find out where to go to register and what you need to vote in your state, because every state has different requirements for what you need to vote. And then, if you want to go a step further, find your favorite candidate, joe Biden, and find out where to register, what we're to do to volunteer to help Joe Biden, and that's you'll do. But if you're a candidate somewhere else, you can also find out where to go and help Joe Biden.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm definitely getting involved and I'll Want to make some posts about my experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can do it. So I normally start. What is this? What is this? January, mm-hmm. I normally start in May. Okay, that's when people really that's what all this noise people don't really start getting engaged until yeah, really like the Democratic Convention, that's a good point May is a good point to start, and by then I Think it's actually a lot of the criminal cases against Trump will have time to fruition as well.
Speaker 1:And then I know that the DC case is gonna start in March, probably April of May at this place. If it gets delayed, I don't think it is. They said that they're expecting a ruling from the court Like this week. It might be today, yeah, today, and they're gonna have hearings on it or I guess the Supreme Court is gonna have hearings. If they do by February 8th, they're gonna make sure they get that trail, that trial the women were mad as hell.
Speaker 2:Yo, those three judges, yeah, oh my god, they were just like seriously. They were just like really, so you can call seal team six to kill your political rival? It was like yes, and the judge was like oh okay.
Speaker 1:He's like yeah, you just hold the entire Congress hostage. Say who gone on? Peach me.
Speaker 2:Who go and peach me boo Yo. So thank you for today. Listen, join Malcolm on Wednesdays at 7 pm. East is on the east and Santa Tom on this little network that he created called m3 male media minds so please tune in is always great listening, great viewing. I'm trying to convince him to turn that into itself into a podcast. Oh yeah, I will. I'm going to start adding those snippets of my show to the G spot.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna yeah, yeah, I mean a different like maybe clips and things for social media. So you know, follow social media Right, and I'll catch you.
Speaker 2:Hmm, yeah. I'm just saying be sure to catch all the other episodes of the m3 bad cast wherever you get to find podcasts. Please and they are great go back to episode one to now. If you got you know I think a long road trip to Nova Scotia.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for listening. Bye.