Ghosting & Pseudointellectual Negro Nonsense

Why do we vanish instead of speak?
 How soon is “too soon” for sex?
 Can confidence feel like arrogance to small minds?
 And what happens when pseudo-intellectual nonsense swallows real Black history whole?

In this week’s M3 Bearcast I sit down with our newest panelist, Jameson, and longtime truth-bomb-dropper Greg to pick at the social scabs we’d rather keep hidden. We move from the messy art of ghosting—yes, I confess my own crimes—to the ticking clock of first-time hookups, then zoom out to confront the viral claim that Harriet Tubman was a fairy tale. (Spoiler: receipts are served.) Along the way we torch stereotypes about race, gender, and sexuality, and ask why certainty so often masquerades as knowledge online.

Expect blunt honesty, loud laughter, and a few lyrical gut-punches. If you value raw conversation over polished veneers, press play, share the ride, and keep questioning.

Catch the full panel every Wednesday at 7 p.m. ET on M3 Live (youtube.com/MaleMediaMind2). Support the movement at patreon.com/MaleMediaMind, or pass this episode to a friend who needs to hear it.

Transcript

  📍  Hello and welcome to the M three Bear Cast. My name is Malcolm Traverse. Male Media Mind is a grassroots organization dedicated to uplifting and unifying our community through dialogue, insight, creativity, and knowledge. And each week on the M three Bear Cast, I highlight topics that could use some extra attention.

And in this episode, actually, I'm speaking with Jamon, one of our latest. I am speaking with Jameson, one of our latest contributors to the M three Live broadcast on the M three Live broadcast, which I host at youtube.com/mail MediaMind two. Every Wednesday at 7:00 PM Eastern,

I discuss issues around communication relationships.

Spirituality and mental health. And in this episode we're actually discussing some of the topics that I post on social media. We were talking about one aspect of dating in the modern world, ghosting.

It branch off into a discussion about how soon. Should you have sex with someone that you're just first starting to get to know?

Then we explore the topic of pseudo-intellectual negro nonsense. This idea that. Because you distrust authoritative sources, do you turn to more conspiratorial thinking and then spread misinformation online and to the people around you?

I hope you enjoy my,

I hope you will con, I hope you will enjoy the continuation. Of my conversation with Jameson and here we go.

I hope you enjoy the conclusion of my conversation with Jameson as a new contributor to the M three panel. Here we go.

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 have you ever ghost someone to avoid conflict or do you believe in giving people honest closure in between and very much in between?

Some people don't need that closure and there's other time people that need that, that need to have that moment where Hey, this is boom and I won't even say avoid conflict. Sometimes that I wouldn't leave in the situation where it is can be at times the best solution because there situations where people between people where like it's gonna be an ongoing cycle and it's no point trying to try and diffuse it or anything because like I said, it's a, it's gonna be continuously, it's gonna be very it's gonna, you don't waste your time, so you might as well just walk away.

Catch, catch that taxi in mind, that business. Not big yellow taxi. I get it. I have to be honest and I feel guilty about it, but I'm a dirty ghoster ghost people. And it's mainly because I'm avoidant. I wish I didn't, I wish I could. James. I'm so shocked.

I feel bad about it. At least I do. I have been telling you about this behavior for years. Lemme just tell you what I've told you. Okay? I'm in public now. You, I can't say that. Okay? This is what happens when you've been knowing your homies so long. You just can't tell all their business in public, but you know better.

Yeah. You stop being like that way because that, I believe in karma. Yeah. And then, so every now are you talking to a motherfucker that is the king of ghosted? Because I will stop calling. I'll just, he said something fucked up me one Thursday and I was like, ah, I'm out, nigga. Wrong.

Next thing it's hello. No. Yeah. And I feel like especially if you're in that stage of getting to know now if you in a full blown relationship. But if y'all met one week on the app, y'all been talking, even if y'all met once or twice and everything, even if y'all slept together, even, you even know, I think, and I've been wanting to say this publicly, people mistake length of time for strength of relationship.

A relationship is not a piggyback. You don't get time.

It's not oh, I've been here seven years. I need to stay seven more to make sure it gets right. No, the very moment, Malcolm, seriously, the very moment that you're not feeling equitable, and I'm gonna tell you, it's you great on my nerves sometime on Wednesday nights. 'cause you just go so far down the rabbit hole.

I'm like, it has been like a long day. But one day I was eating and taking a nap behind there. I had paused the camera and you said something that just jolted me back to life. You just you don't you don't owe anybody anything. That is a construct. And I'll never forget this, you said that is a construct of somebody else's imagination.

And I felt so predicated and I was like, no, that's my friend right there. Yeah, that's a, it's a dark thought, but it's the truth. I remember sometimes even like the idea of rights, like human rights and I have the right to something. He's no thing you believe. So what made you go ahead, what made you go, what made you ghost people?

What made me ghost people Or you you model, look, let's talk, let, we'll make it a general, so I'm asking both of y'all what make y'all ghost people? I'll go first, Michael, because Okay. Top of mind. Lemme tell you. There was a fewer things there. Sometimes. There were other people line that I enjoyed more.

You know what I mean? That's, you out there, you're dating, it's, six niggas in line. You enjoy nigga number four better than you enjoy nigga number seven or whatever. You know what I'm saying? So that's that. And it could be availability or proximity or conversation. Now the other thing is I like to call it being unequally yoked because I like to think of myself as the Sally Struthers of the gay world.

I will take some shit on, you know what I mean? It's just like in the arms up, angel, I'll take on some shit, I'll bring home a puppy. Oh, look at the puppy. Oh my God, Malcolm, I'll bring home a puppy when that motherfucker piss on my rug. You gotta go. Oh god. Metaphor means like you bring home a stray, you going to probably catch a straight, and men. James, hear me out, young brother hear me out. Clearly we don't really change. We just get older in our bullshit and we do it better than we did it last year because we know how to do it. Malcolm, do you agree with that? Pretty much, yeah. I'm the same fucker I was at 30. I'm just, and I am just wiser and older, and lemme tell you it's like you react, like my granddaughter told me that, my granddaughter said my birthday was a couple of Wednesdays ago, James. So my granddaughter said happy birthday, happy belated birthday. You someone, sir. My, my granddaughter said happy birthday papa.

How old are you? I say, Ooh. You know what this wind said to me? Oh, I can't count that high. I said, ain't nobody asked your motherfucking as

I ain't nobody asked your motherfucker that, and I, and my son was like, that's your granddaughter. She ain't a in the streets I,

me fuck her. Saying sometimes natural, I said that to stay, sometimes natural instincts take over and I'm, I tell this to the world all the time. Your first mind is generally correct. Don't change your mind. Go with your, do not change your mind if you go. That's how the killer get the motherfucker that's running from the killer.

Oh shit, I left my phone, you a mile away from the killer. Now you gonna try to go back and get your phone. Why? If your mind tells you, but this motherfucker is not for me. Trust that and another motherfucking Charlie thinkers is gonna come along and, and you may made the wrong decision or you've made the decision on what they showed you at the time.

Go with that, please, God, how mercy Now, Michael, what is, how what, I know what makes you ghost motherfucker, but tell the world what makes you ghost. Yeah. So I don't think I ghost anyone who I've been seeing for extended periods of time, although I do agree with the idea that a relationship's length is not con, expresses, expressly an indicator of how deep the relationship goes.

So I think that typically the ghosting happens to very shallower relationships. People who I've only been talking to, maybe a month or two and maybe met a couple times that most do I feel accepted. Have y'all did a dirty dozen? Yeah, probably. Yeah. I try to get that in as quickly as possible.

I typically don't wait. I know some people wait because they want to know if this person is truly genuine about their interest in you. And or rather, either way you're gonna find out, James, do you wait? Is there some waiting period? Most time it is because we're like, we're not in the same city.

We're like, like whole different state. But if it's local, and it depends. Depends how fast, how fast that leg will go up. But you know what I'm saying? It's just it really depends on the person. Sometimes it's, a what does it depends on. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Logan?

Yeah. So boom. So you have individuals where you talk to them and you have, and this is just my perspective, okay? So you have that feeling. You have this feeling where you know what? I don't wanna fuck you. I don't wanna fuck you right yet. I want to, I wanted to get to know you more and more.

I wanna pick your brain. There's other gentleman I call that the pause. The pause. You put him on pause. Go ahead. The other gentleman. Okay. You just, there's something about you. It is sexually gravitating towards my penis. And then we gotta, fuck, we gotta do something. We gotta, and it either goes left or right, and I'm cool, whatever.

Some people, if you state your true intentions with me. I'm, cause that's true. So Malcolm. Have you ghosted people more after sex or before sex? What is your ratio? It's probably more likely to be before, and that's just simply because if I don't know, like I, I think that's just because of the numbers, like I'm much more likely not to get to the sexual part and this, it's also due to the fact that I'm talking about people who are a long distance, right?

So if I've gotten to the point where I'm getting on a bus and a train to go see you or whatever I put in the time and effort and that is further down the line. And typically in a situation like that, I will just make sure all the parts fit correctly and but yeah, I don't think sex has much to do with it.

It's about the depth of the relationship. Do I truly trust you emotionally to, 'cause here's the reason I ghost is it really is just difficult emotionally for me to break someone else's heart, right? To see their little, heartbreaking in half. I guess I'm just also empathetic to the point where it's like hurting myself.

And so it, if I don't feel that you're gonna get much out of that, I'm not gonna do that to myself in the process. I will be honest with them about what, why I'm not continuing the relationship. I'm not gonna completely ghost, but if you call me, I have a question before I ask you why it's on my mind, not pretend like I'm dead.

I'm gonna pushback is very so prosper. You know what I'm saying? James, why you doing this to me? Oh my god. Because. Your friend, the one you liked so much, you said, I should have never left because they were so hot, which I hate you for. Because I shoulda have been left. That is an instance, by the way, going back.

Why I stayed too long. Because you told Yeah, I was gonna say, you have stayed too long. I that one time because you told me to. I don't agree with that assessment at all. I was there other situations too, but I ain't call you out. I ain't calling you out. Oh, we gonna do call a thing. Listen, when you call a homie, right?

A homie's I, it was something, I can't remember the movie that Chris Rock did some years ago, but he said, and that something that stuck with me was like in one of those I can't remember the name of the movie, but he had it in his standup too. It's just like every relationship it, that was something that you wanted, that you want to stay, there's always a period of time where you want to leave, but you stay out of hope to make it work.

And he said for him, he had a mathematical. Percentage. I don't agree with the percentage, but there's always a tale of period of that relationship. And that is the most painful part of the breakup, is recognizing that for the past 2, 3, 4 months, you wanted to leave and you didn't, no I didn't look at it that way because the sex was amazing.

My gun nigga's body was rocking. You could still have sex. That's amazing. And want to leave and know that it's not right. I did, I'm telling you. Yeah. And that's just part of making decisions. It's yeah. And then what happened was I just put 'em further and further back in.

Yeah. And it but Malcolm was like, think about that. I was like

that's funny. I had, there's individuals even in Columbus where I had to cut it off because it just got too much. What's too much? And walking inside my apartment, I had another guest. I, the door was unlocked. I had roommates. I had roommates at the time, and I guess my roommate left it unlocked. And so he walked inside my apartment and walked inside my room.

My friend was there and I was there, but I was in the shower. So all is my friend playing the game and he see him, they see each other, and he just left. I don't that you're my space. I wasn't expecting you. You didn't tell me, you didn't tell me that you was coming over and for you tonight, man oh, I'm outside.

You ain't see no text. Nothing. Yeah, that's 'cause the whole idea was to pop up, nigga Hey, I know. And no, I don't do no popups. I don't do that. That's, yeah, that's, but that's like a, it's a trigger to me because my. Let me tell, lemme tell you something to those who pop up.

You going to get what you're looking for. You gonna get exactly what you're looking for. If you go through his phone, you gonna get what you're looking for. If you think he cheating, you gonna get what you're looking for because your mind, even if he's not, your mind, has already created the perception.

You don't know who that, he didn't know who that was playing video games on your floor. That could have been your homie from Troi way back. That could have been a cousin, that could have been a brother, that could have been a, you know what I'm saying? Because I tell you what, if I'm ever in Albany, I'm going to bed in's bed and don't come in here.

Because I'm.

That's what it is. If we've been we fucking family, I'm gonna go and get you. I'm gonna get me a sandwich, I'm gonna go upstairs, I'm gonna go to sleep. And if you come in here, his homie bust in there. Why? Why the fuck Rick? I knew y'all was fucking no nigga. He ain't had no business in here. I actually did have that happen to a friend of mine.

Similar, right? Yeah. I, yeah. It's the thing, even if you know you and the situation is what it looks like, you still have no respect people's privacy. You, even though you and I have to tell this all the time, you have the right even in relationship to personhood. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah. You have one time and Malcolm hear me clearly. One time I had a friend that let his partner mirror like into his phone and they shared. That thing bothered my spirit. I'm like, why, dude? Why? What? Who? James, I can't even get it out. I was so upset. So they, that's, but that's the lack of trust and security.

If you feel as if that you have to do all that, I'm like, why? You don't have the right to manage your own. Why do they need to see who called you? I could say something in a text message that don't even mention your name. That could sound like I'm talking about you. Yeah, man. The sex was amazing.

I busted open because our previous conversation, I gave you names and backup stuff. So the, this new conversation, I don't have to give you the details, be like, yeah, I busted open, I went over there about seven I'll be over there. I told him, I'll be over there about seven 30, and then the, so you have to be careful when you're not the intended audience is all.

Yeah. You gotta be really careful about that. One more and then we can end it. Let's do this one. Do you feel pressured to live up to certain stereotypes about your race, gender, and sexuality, even if you don't agree with them? Hell no. Looking at a black man have a huge Nirvana tattoo on my chest, so No.

No I don't feel, I don't feel, and, but then you are looking at a somewhat stereotypical masculine male who knows all the words to the musical libido you know what I mean? Yeah. Don't cry for me, Argentina. What the fuck I'm gonna do. And luckily, being my father, being an immigrant and my father was 62 when I was born.

This motherfucker just happy to have a kid, he always encouraged me, whatever you are, be the best at it. Don't, just live happy. Just live happy. Thanks, pop. I think that's the best Yeah. Message that you could have left me. Yeah, I remember that. I can't remember who said this but he said, if there's 40, 42 million different black people in the United States and there's 42 million different ways to be black, and I love black culture, but I know that I don't necessarily fit in all the time.

I, it surprises people when I tell them like, I came from the south side of Chicago. When you talk about stereotypes of what the south side of Chicago is, it just so happens that I went to a private school when I was there. So I come out looking sounding white, but I lived in the ghetto, like for real.

So ghetto that when my dad's house burned to the ground, people ran into the house to steal things, right? The ghetto, that is some Chicago shit, bro. Yeah. It's so your shit on fire and they running out with your shit. I got a tv. Yeah, this is gonna burn up anyway. Look, listen, all they gotta do is clean the ass off this motherfucker.

Let's go child. I agree. Yeah, sometime at one point in my life I was insecure if who am I? What am I doing? And I, now I know, I'm confident to say that I. I am gonna be black forever. I'm gonna be gay forever. I'm going to be looking like not looking like this, but I'm gonna be shaped the way I'm shaped.

I don't, I have no, if I could, I wouldn't even change nothing. I just know there's no, I don't need to a nothing. I don't, I feel confident who I am. Now, whoever feels like they need to agree or disagree, that's cool. But for those that need to disagree all I always tell them, talk to God about it because I can't help you with anything.

Can't help you talk to customer service because I can't do nothing. I can't do nothing but people. I think people are, because I start to know when you're confident with yourself and you can be who you are and like care, what, don't care what other people say. I think that bothers people.

People confidence. I. Can bother another person. 'cause they want you to be annoyed. They want you to be irritated. They want to pick at you until you explode and have a reason to explode. That has been a huge problem in my life, James, that because them uncomfortable, because I don't fit into their box.

I've not, yeah, I a hundred percent agree with that. I could take it from the other way. So I've noticed that when I was unsure of myself, when I was meek and, timid about who I am and didn't express my opinion, much people like that. People like meek, people who are not confident. Yeah. And so the reverse is definitely true if you're confident and consistent in who you are.

And you don't even have to do that. It feels like that rubs people the wrong way. A lot of times they will look at that as arrogance or some sort of like slight against someone else. And it's nothing like that. It's just. I don't agree with you and I strive to not be arrogant or I like to be humble.

Like I'm not the sexiest thing in the world. And, but also that's a downfall because there's sometimes I downplay myself when I should uplift myself about things like my achievements. Yeah. Let me tell y'all something. If I wake up in the morning and I'm feeling like I'm too sexy for my motherfucking shirt, I'm gonna let the world know.

And that's the way I've always been. If I feel sexy, I'm going to exude sexy. You know what I mean? If I think I'm the hottest thing in the room, I, and it and confidence there is a difference. Confidence, arrogance is two different things. Confidence, I know who I am and I know what I have to offer.

You know what I'm saying? I know I've been to 24, 25 different countries. I know I have life experience beyond this world. I know who I am. I know what I look like. I know what I sound like. I know what, who my friend circles are. I'm very confident in these things. So I don't care how I walk into a room.

I'm gonna walk into a room as me. Now, how you perceive that is up to you. If you think I'm an arrogant asshole, stay over there. 'cause that's, if you get that vibe from me, fine. But I tell you the other thing is I'm probably I pride myself. I'm being a nice guy. My friend, I am a friend's friend.

I'm the dude you called. Malcolm called me. What time did you text me last night? Malcolm, like 10 at night, whatever, asked me to. Oh, dinner. Yeah. He knows I go to mass each and every Sunday. But I tell my friend, no, my brother, he, and I can count the number of times he's asked me to do something that is outside of my schedule.

You know what I mean? So why not? It's not gonna hurt me. Yeah. But people don't, lot of people don't know that side of me. They to know the asshole. Greg's a dick, and then I made my stage name the talented Mr. Drayton. I do believe I'm, and that's what I'm saying, that's, and I think that's what people get confused.

Like when you uplift yourself, call yourself the talented Mr. Drayton. Hope I'm pronouncing that it is. People might like, oh, so you think you, you're so talented and all that. I think that just, that's hate within themselves. Yeah. You know what? Because you know I, yes, I do Saturdays at 1:00 PM and I was telling Malcolm yesterday, when I started, I was god damn tired.

But you know what, you have to find the energy. You have to find the excitement about what you're doing. Telling the people the Supreme Court has fucked you again, is not exciting. It's not happy. It's not joyful. But I have to do those things to, so you won't be scared. Yeah. So the people that I reporting to won't be afraid.

It took me months to find this balance, and I had to say to myself, if I continuously find joy in what you do, and I'm James, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna respond. Something that you said about yourself, esteeming, how you see yourself. I'm at someone, I'm 30 years older than you, probably exactly 30 years older than you.

And let, I'm just going to tell you, love what you got. Love your lips, love your hips, love your ass, love your knees. Because I'm a, this world is Yeah. Even if they ask you, brother, I know it. No, they just messed up. They messed up. If I could, if I can get a cute knee replacement and I can get back to normal week, I'll be perfect.

You know what, I'm gonna tell you real quick. I work for a physical therapy firm and so I'll hit me about, we'll get you on the right path. Thank you. Yeah. Before we go, this has been a pleasure, by the way, James. It really has. Thank you. And I have a video for you, actually, I was gonna do this for Wednesday, but you said you were a history buff and this shit had me laughing and I just want to get your take on this real quick.

Okay. Ever since I found out Harriet Tubman. It's not a real person. It fucked me up. I'm not gonna lie. I decided to just hop in here real quick because this video is not for the lady who made this because I think she's made her mind up. The hair Tubman is like a fairytale creature. But I do wanna discuss the issues for someone because I see a lot of the comments are like, oh my God, I knew it.

This comment really gagged me. So let's just, let's unpack it because her real name is Menta Ross. Yeah, she was born Menta Ross. But people change their names all the time, right? We know this. So when you get to freedom, you wanna change your name because they're often looking for enslaved people by their names.

And you can't go and say your name is the same name that it was when you were an enslaved person, or they might find you. So she took her husband's last name, Tubman, and her mother's name Harriet, and created the name Harriet Tubman. And she was a spy for the United States government. This part is true.

Harriet Tubman was a spy for the US government, but I think you're making it seem more sinister than it actually is. So Harriet Tubman worked for the Union the North to help free enslaved people in the South. Because remember, the US United States was too. Low key to governments at the time. So she led a mission called the Cohi River raid, which freed historians are estimating somewhere between five and 800 people in one night while raiding three different plantations and offering the enslaved people an opportunity to join her and go to the next place, to fight for the freedom of their brothers and their sisters and their fellow enslaved people.

So yes, she was a spy for the US military, but not the way she's making it sound, and they want us to look up and idolize these people. Oh, they look just like me, so I must look up to them. Stop that shit immediately. Black Americans have every right to question the US government. I firmly believe that, considering all they've done to us, the lies they've told us.

That being said, everything's not a trick. There have been a lot of tricks. There have been a lot of tricks. Everything isn't a trick. Now I am looking at the comments, right? Like this comment I mentioned earlier, Harriet Tubman has descendants. Harriet Tubman didn't have children, but Har Tubman does have living relatives.

They've written books. This is a book by one of her living descendants or one of her living relatives. So Harry Tubman absolutely has very living relatives. And now I'm looking at videos like this one. Finally, someone's talking about it because I just was saying this the other day, to someone near me out, that shit does not make any sense.

Why would you be taking slaves underground in tunnels? The Underground Railroad was not under the ground. It wasn't sub earth. It wasn't below the earth, it was underground. It was a secret. That was how it was underground, but it was they're not tunnels going from Maryland to Canada, there is a YouTuber named F Signifier who I strongly recommend you watch his videos.

He's great. But he's coined this term called pseudo-intellectual negro nonsense. And that's what this is. Now I wanna be clear. I am not an intellectual. I am not a historian. I'm a history buff. I like history. I'm not specifically surrounding Har Tubman specifically. I am not a historian. I really strongly urge you if you're gonna listen to someone, listen to actual historians who studied history.

Har Tubman is a very well documented person, a very well documented real person who lived and helped a lot of people. I hope it helped. Wait a minute. Pseudo intellectual negro nonsense. Nonsense. So I actually seen it again. I'm gonna need 30 minutes right now to unpack this 'cause I love that. And the fact Bob, the drag queen.

So I have another video next Saturday that comes from another lady who comes from mix of anger when she's talking about that lady. But I found the original video and I commented on her, oh yeah, with the woman with the nose ring. And I said, ma'am, please go to school somewhere. And sit down. Sit down. You are ignorant.

You, I'm so mad too. Sound. You sound and you're causing other people to sound ignorant. Ma'am, you are the reason for Trump. You're ignorant. And Ooh, we got it. But I think something about this also indicates how dangerous it is for the right to be fucking around with history and, removing certain books from the library.

So one of the things, and this is, I'm not gonna be criticizing you, Greg specifically but a lot of times people will just say it really doesn't matter if people remove certain things from the curriculum or from schools because they can always find this information in other places. The problem with it is that, once you have lost faith in the authoritative.

Narrative about certain things. You start trying to think for yourself and you don't have the expertise to think for yourself. You still need historians and credible sources to help you determine what's true and what's not. And this is just one of those times where this person ran into the wrong source and someone was just, saying, oh my God, har Tubman's, not Har Tubman.

And why? It's crazy they're trying to dismantle the Smithsonian. Yeah. ' cause mantle history and it's not that And what was that? Intellectual negro nonsense. Yeah. Intellectual negro nonsense. Which is crazy. I think I that it's literally speechless that people of our own, our folk. Don't believe someone that, that historical, someone that literally was our stepping stone to freedom.

Yeah. And even if it wasn't, even if it was let's even go with the narrative that it wasn't real. You don't, it feels real, it feels authentic to have someone that wanted to escape from hell, like slavery. And everyone knows slavery ain't no joke. Rather, if it is the past or current slavery, 'cause slavery still is going, is an ongoing thing.

But why get on the internet? Why lock? Why unlock your phone? Cut that camera on and speak that nonsense. Why you cozy you and then you like, you know what, I'm gonna post this and I'm going, you people gonna me? James can tell you something. She had no rebuttal. Yeah. Her I said, just because you don't believe because you are currently enslaved.

That's what I told her. You are currently enslaved. Just 'cause you don't believe. I bet you have never voted. I bet you've never voted. You've never stood anything. But you guys heard something. You regurgitated it. I said, you ma'am, are the problem. She said, what the fuck do you mean? Hold on, Michael, because we got her and I got into a serious back and forth.

Yeah. I was like, I'm not gonna sit here and argue with an idiot because it is gonna make me sound like a fool. You know what I mean? So and she was like I said, send me your sources. I can send you 38,000 sources. I can send you footnotes, I can send you doctoral papers, I can send you accounts from Ms.

Tubman's family. This woman did books. I can, I said, go fly your ass to DC and while it's still there, go to the African American Museum. There's a floor for Harriet Tubman. Yeah. There. And I, so anybody that can hear this, and you have yes. This government has

all those people, all those things, that they did research, they treated us bad. And I tell people. This country, don't fuck with us. This is the only place that you, that they can take something for enslaved people like a plantation and make it a abandoned breakfast. They will never make fucking Auschwitz abandoned breakfast.

And it's on the same level as that. But when now that we can buy Jordans and Coco Guff can win the French open they have some, I'm a free thinker. Bitch, you a slave. And let's not forget that. And let's not forget where we are. Just Tom gave us Barack Obama, but Tom also gave us the backlash that, which is Donald Trump.

So let's, this country never forgets to let us know who our forefathers were. We were never meant to be whole people. I. And the fact that, and I said you set your braid, having motherfucking dyed hair from China, sitting them there with a ring in your nose looking ignorant. I hope you finished the eighth grade.

You dumped slut. And then, okay. See, I was gonna say, this is one of the reasons I think I'm forever going to be a fan of Bob, the drag queen. 'cause he was pretty respectful to this woman, more respectful than she deserved. I wasn't, he seems I'm not even addressing this to her 'cause she seems she's lost in the sauce.

This is to everyone else out here do not be believing in this. He brought receipts. That's the first thing. And I think the second thing is that we have to also be flexible enough to learn when our history is different than what we thought. So there are a lot of things about Harriet Tubman that we learn later to not be true.

One of the major ones had to do with like how many people she freed. And this had to do with the fact that she was a legend, like people believed that she was worse than she was because that fear, gave her power and there was nothing wrong with that. In the context of her making these raids on plantations, she actually led people through like rivers that had minds in them because she knew these rivers so well.

She had perversed them so many times before. And yeah. So yeah, she was a spy because she was able to navigate ships through waters that would nor, normal people would not be able to. And she had the respect of northern generals because of lies sometimes, like legends of what she was doing.

Like people inflated the numbers so much. So she was like, oh my God, it's Harriet. But can learn the truth about someone and realize it's not inherently, absolutely. It's not inherently antagonistic when something isn't true. Sometimes it's just a legend, but there is a truth and we, crazily history is something that we're still going to learn new things about things that happened in the past because I, history is always consistently going, every single second. History isn't always it's in the making. We're learning new stuff all the time. We're digging up new artifacts, we learn new stuff.

Yeah. All the time. But and then like you said, like it's not only in the present time, we also talking about the past. Like the past will, I think the past will always be brought up and just, that's why, what's one, one thing about history and amazed me on how like. You can be so educated on one thing, but something might pop out and expand on a whole new level, and then you have to attack that.

So like you gotta be, you gonna be on your P's and Q's. But Absolutely. I think, are we, I think we're gonna end it there. I wanna make sure we get our recordings and if there anymore seconds. Yeah, let's do that.

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